Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Hodgdon is discontinuing the IMR Enduron line of powders ?

Forgot about that one, copy on the way. Thanks

On another forum a gentleman claims he called Hodgdon and was told the Enduron line was discontinued due to low demand of it. Since I’ve only seen a few pounds in 3 years, maybe there’s a reason it’s in low demand.

Yeah, I haven't seen much on the shelves either. I'm sure there was some demand, just not enough supply..

Son’uva bee……
I heard this in July and chalked it up to another conspiracy theory.
And I just worked up a load in my 308 with IMR4166, which is a backup load for my H4895 loads—I am getting a bit low on H4895.
In several of my 270’s, 160g NPt’s and IMR7977 work great.

Son’uva bee…

I wonder how much of this is a ingredient/commodity shortage making it difficult to manufacture certain powders.
The hoarding inspired “shortage” probably did more to motivate handloaders to try the Enduron powders as anything.
Now the rug gets pulled out.

Son’uva bee……

Ya, I was down to 1/2 lb of H4895, couldn't find any, 4166 was available so I bought 7 lbs, 2lbs of A2495, 1lb of VV140, 3lbs each of old 4320 and 3031 locally in components trading.

Finally PV had H4895 a couple times so I bought 8 1lbers, my established loads for 708 and 308 are with 4895 for the last 15 years. That's enough for the grandkid's when they get all my shooting stuff.

I guess I'm officially a hoarder in that burn rate now.

Kent

Not a rifle powder, but, I called Hodgdon and asked about Universal powder. The fella said they are not recieving any and are not currently in the process of packaging any for consumer purchase.
Damn, glad I don't need any, but, was curious. Strange times guys.

So where was it going? Is it sold in Canada under a different name? Or is the military buying it? Or did IMR stop making it?

Sorry if I missed it.

Has anyone heard anything further from the teaser regarding the introduction of two new StaBALL powders? I recall a hint in that press release that maybe the Endurons were not going to be discontinued after all.
That'd be nice,
Rex

I can’t find H4895 anywhere and I use a lot of it. I have some but could sure use some more.

I saw some locally not long ago, and foolishly let it be. Still have some, but I won’t let the next jug I see get away.

Meanwhile, I’ll reserve mine for specific loads, and dip into other powders for futzing around.

Re23 is available.

Where?

I dunno, but these sites make it look like they have it.

https://rockstoneammo.store/product/alliant-reloder-23-smokeless-gun-powder/
https://meridian-firearms.com/product/reloder-23-powder-in-stock/
https://firearms-world.com/product/alliant-reloder-23-smokeless-gun-powder/

Enduron powder production was preempted by other contracts with the General Dynamics plant in Canada. That much is fact.
The rumor is Enduron was preempted by military contracts. The world’s militaries are expanding and/or stocking up.

Gee, that’s a surprise.

Sure ain’t gonna help the primer situation any.

Thanks.

So IMR4350 is made in the same plant as E4451? So I take it IMR4350 is still being produced? If only producing the one powder of the similar burn rate it would make sense to modernise IMR4350, maybe add the decoppering agent at least. Use some of the new manufacturing technology for the old IMR4350.

Is there any smokeless powder made in the US these days?

Alliant produces some of its powder in various U.S. factories, and the St. Marks (part of General Dynamics) plant in Florida that makes quite a bit.

Thanks John.

Our military might have arsenals that load them ammo, but it seems they should have an in country powder source for their proprietary needs if nothing else. Supposing St. Marks might be that considering their parent Co.