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Many have cone to the same conclusion

Interested in where the OP plans to get Varget, having just learned he doesn't have any.
Rex

Actually, Varget is showing up again, both on websites and in stores.

This isn't totally surprising, since as with past "shortages," they tend to start abating after a year or so. They're mostly caused by increased demand--from handloaders who expected to be able to buy whatever they want at the local store, a little at a time.

Once those handloaders buy what they want, then the "supply" increases.

Was just reading an article I wrote during the first "Obama shortage" in 2009--when .223 brass was almost impossible to find. Also remember when primers almost disappeared in the late 1990s after the Clinton assault rifle ban. They also started showing up 1-2 years later.

But every time the same thing happens, some handloaders are totally surprised....

Yup. Lately I've been able to buy powder, bullets, & brass in small quantities at the local SW. Primers tho, are still just out of reach....

Sycophants - are comforting.

Your whining and obfuscations still hasn't answered the simple question.

"I don't know." would have been an acceptable answer.




GR

Why must these threads always devolve into this?

Yes hunted the upper Gallatin in about 10" of wet snow. Saw one bull and his tracks were only ones we saw.

Hmm!

It snowed some here, but not in the valley--and not that much in the mountains. We didn't go out--rarely do opening weekend--but a couple friends got smaller bulls, well below the snow-line.

Getting ready to start load development for the Ruger Hawkeye African/9.3x62mm.

Given the 24" lightweight Bbl. and minimal recoil pad of this rifle, and the chance of shooting Large African game < 0.0%, have set the spec. for MV at ~ 2400 fps/286 gr..

Looking at Hodgdon's "VARGET," as it is a single base powder of their "Extreme" line, so it is fairly temp stable, and should also work well for reduced loads for the Speer 270 gr. at the same 2400 fps. velocity.


Hodgdon's Reloading Data Center - lists 59.0C grns./VARGET for 2350 fps., so maybe ~ 60.8C grns. would get it to 2400 fps.

Nosler's Load Data site - shows 55.5 grns./VARGET having a 99% Load Density.


My question is: How much VARGET can the case hold under a 286 gr. bullet?




GR

No idea. Don't really care. I use Big Game to achieve the same results from a shorter barrel.

I'm sure if i actually gave you an answer, you'd either disagree or argue the semantics of my answer anyway.

Different brand cases can be and often are of differing capacity.

You question is ridiculous. You should use the load data for your components

I've been laid up with the flu all this week feeling pretty miserable. For whatever reason, I started reading one of the threads started by Garandimal and was impressed by his refusal to be reasonable in discussing whatever it was he was posting about. So, I looked into the other threads he started and found that to be his modus operandi. He is what I usually refer to as a contrarian. Now some contrarians can be useful in stimulating thought and helping a discussion zero in on a good solution. Other contrarians are just....well, contrary. They just want to be difficult and deflect any useful conversation around in circles without accomplishing anything. They don't want information or help. They just want attention.

Guess what type contrarian Garandimal is!

Here in the South when referring to someone like him, the statement starts out with "Bless his heart...". At least it does when we're trying to be nice.

Like you, damn near worthless.

But don't stop bein' an [bleep]... just because.




GR

Listed in the OP two substantially different data sources.

What is the % difference in case capacity/brand, generally?




GR

"I Don't Know" - was your answer.

The rest... just makes you feel better about not bein' at the adult table.




GR

Ok Ok somebody has to say it... grandimal, you're a fuugin idiot

Case capacity 5.07 cm3 (78.2 gr H2O)

Per Wikipedia

Cubic CM is a volume that be translated depending on powder.

I did not read the whole thread...

Other cartridges... https://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_case_capacity.htm

5.07 cubic CM worth

I've purchased two more 1 lb cans of CFE 223 for my .35 Whelen, and plan to give it a try in my 9.3 x 62. But I've been very satisfied with RL-17 over the past decade that gives excellent velocities and accuracy, and has NOT shown any temp instability in either handloads or hunting loads. But then the spring and fall hunting seasons aren't extreme in temp changes. Yet I've shot those loads at the range from just below freezing to +30 C without significant changes in MV and POA. Not so with RL-15 which showed get distinctions with variable temps.

But CFE 223 showed less pressure than RL-17 at the approximate same MV in my Whelen, so I aim to give it a try in the 9.3 x 62. They were tested at the same time in new Rem .35 Whelen brass, using the same primers and COL.

Bob
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