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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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I uh.......uh........go both ways.

If my freezer's empty, I have zero issue shooting a spike or whatever I see that is legal. Other times, especially when flights are involved and dealing with the meat is a total PIA, I head hunt. I do and like both and factor a lot of bird hunting into the equation.

It ain't no sh:t that for what I spend in fuel and tags, I could eat steak and lobster every day at a hell of a nice resturant. Instead, I eat like crap and sleep under a tree a lot. I drink cheap beer by choice though, `cause I ain't no hi-fallutin, proper and refined redneck.

Heading out in the morning to set more wolverine traps and kill more ptarmigan. If I eat at all, it'll be a gas station burrito, `cause I am classy like that.

Besides classy, you’re a sexy mofo too ~ when you’re wearing lace panties.


Ribeye for elk camp.


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Where's all that fresh buck backstrap??? Its soooooo good, sure you got elk meat?


Haha god damn


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GPS coordinates requested for elk ⛺️

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My goal is typically to take a mature animal. I don't necessarily care to take the biggest rack and won't spend countless hours in search of a specific animal. I shoot the first mature animal I see. Usually, mature animals will have a larger rack AND they will provide more meat. Myself, I don't have a problem with what others do so long as it isn't creating a problem for somebody else.

I generally head hunt similarly...ie, I look for a "good" animal but don't give a damn about inches (of antler at least). The issue here is that lots of strict head hunters do feel you're creating a problem for somebody else by shooting small bucks and definitions of "too small" vary widely. Conversely, by only shooting trophies some feel that makes anti hunters hate the sport more, so again you're creating a problem for somebody else by head hunting. Everyone seems to have a different thought process concerning how critters should or should not be managed. I see arguments about it all the time and am fascinated by so many points of view.

Mostly here on the Oregon Coast, the Blacktail do all right. There’s more bucks that are never seen by anyone. Frick’n nocturnal demons, or as they’re called ‘ghosts’.

Doe hunting is what stirs up emotions for some people. Shoot a doe, you just killed a potential fawn producer.

I imagine in places where animal density is lower, hunters would have stronger feelings about shooting a fork or doe.

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Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by T_Inman
I uh.......uh........go both ways.

If my freezer's empty, I have zero issue shooting a spike or whatever I see that is legal. Other times, especially when flights are involved and dealing with the meat is a total PIA, I head hunt. I do and like both and factor a lot of bird hunting into the equation.

It ain't no sh:t that for what I spend in fuel and tags, I could eat steak and lobster every day at a hell of a nice resturant. Instead, I eat like crap and sleep under a tree a lot. I drink cheap beer by choice though, `cause I ain't no hi-fallutin, proper and refined redneck.

Heading out in the morning to set more wolverine traps and kill more ptarmigan. If I eat at all, it'll be a gas station burrito, `cause I am classy like that.

Besides classy, you’re a sexy mofo too ~ when you’re wearing lace panties.


Ribeye for elk camp.


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Where's all that fresh buck backstrap??? Its soooooo good, sure you got elk meat?


Haha god damn

Wifey, and I already ate half of one strap. It was awesome!

We’ll do up a full strap in marinade and BBQ it for the hunting crew.

9 days of meals means more than just eating deer meat. Gotta have a selection.

I’m outta elk steak ~ ate all of it. Have some summer sausage still, but not much.

Why do you love deer hunting so much, if you can’t stand to eat it? You eat the elk or bear you kill?

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Lol

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GPS coordinates requested for elk ⛺️

I’m easy to find.

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Originally Posted by Judman
And that's exactly why I said in the beginning, NO-ONE, hunts for meat nowadays, especially me or beaver10. Again, if a guy eats it, ill never biitch, especially when, especially in our state, bear, cougar, wolves and every other predator goes unchecked. 👍 bet your ass, ill never squeal.

Wait, what?

Oh…Okay, I see what you meant.

Yeah, I don’t have to hunt meat to survive. But we do like the Blacktail, elk, and antelope I’ve shot.

Being honest…Is deer or elk straps better than a Grade Prime ribeye?

Um, Fûck No!

But we do eat what I shoot, including ducks, and upland birds.

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Jud,

Try this on Blacktail. It simple.

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I’m not a fan of Mule Deer, unless the pig has been eating grain and alfalfa all year. Sage brush eaters ~ I’ll pass.

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I hunt because I love hunting. The whole experience. The preseason preparation, scouting, building stands, placing and checking trail cams, hanging out at deer camp, ect. I was taught as a kid to shoot the first legal deer that I saw. I Started hunting with my grandfather. He lived on a farm, we ate everything we hunted. Deer, rabbit, squirrel, game birds, nothing went to waste. When we killed a deer the first thing we ate was the liver and heart, my grandfather even scrambled up the brains with eggs. That was over 50 years ago. For many years I hunted like I was taught. So I guess you could consider that meat hunting. As years past, I started letting deer walk and chasing Bucks with big headgear. So I guess I became a headhunter. After putting some pretty nice ones on the wall, I'm done chasing trophies. Sure, I still like to see a big Buck. But now I usually Shoot the first legal mature Doe I see early in the season. Put one in the freezer. Then I'm happy to get a shot at anything that's a big six point or better. So I guess I have been both, a meat hunter and a head hunter. Now I'm just a Hunter and still love it.

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We switched to being elk meat hunters 10 years ago. Bull tags are hard to get while we can hunt cows every year. I'd rather hunt every year than wait for that elusive bull tag just to shoot a pointy head.


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My tags, my hunt, I’ll shoot or not and don’t need to defend my decisions.

I don’t care what others choose to shoot either, or why.

As long as it’s legal and ethical, do your thing and hunt/shoot what you want.

If I see a cow elk here in a little bit I’ll shoot my second elk for the year in wyoming. Going to have to be close, wind is honking up to 60 mph.

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Both for me, I like to eat them and have never thrown a horn away.

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I got to disagree with part of the OP's definition. I put just as much planning, scouting,preparation hunting for cows. I have some pretty nice heads hanging on the wall, but I never passed up a legal elk, cow or bull.It took me 21 years to draw a tag in a coveted 25 tag unit in Colorado but I killed bulls or cows every one of these 21years.

If you don't do all these in Colorado there is good chance you will go home empty handed. "They are constantly looking, consumed by maps, overlays of food/water sources, terrain, elevation, and accessible public land…It’s like they have a terminal illness. I think a more accurate description is an addiction. An addiction in pursuit of something special, and the reward in the end for the effort put into hunting the animal". .

I use to tell people I was trophy hunting when I went home with an unpunched tag.

If you took whatever walked by on the last day of the hunt, you are meat hunter no matter how many animals you passed up in the preceding days.


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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And that's exactly why I said in the beginning, NO-ONE, hunts for meat nowadays, especially me or beaver10. Again, if a guy eats it, ill never biitch, especially when, especially in our state, bear, cougar, wolves and every other predator goes unchecked. 👍 bet your ass, ill never squeal.

Wait, what?

Oh…Okay, I see what you meant.

Yeah, I don’t have to hunt meat to survive. But we do like the Blacktail, elk, and antelope I’ve shot.

Being honest…Is deer or elk straps better than a Grade Prime ribeye?

Um, Fûck No!

But we do eat what I shoot, including ducks, and upland birds.

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I like buck huntin for the hunt, as you say, the little nocturnal demons. Elk are easy to kill by comparison, mature western wa or nw Oregon, if a guy can kill one yearly, you’re doin something right. As I said earlier, I hunt I like huntin bucks for the hunt, not the meat. Buck I killed last week, pard got backstraps, guy at work got the tenderloin. Rest is pepperoni/sausage fodder in the freezer. Deer killed next in Montana will more than likely be left with my pard I stay with over there for his family. I really do wish deer were solid angus ribeyes though!!! 😆


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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Try this on Blacktail. It simple.

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I’m not a fan of Mule Deer, unless the pig has been eating grain and alfalfa all year. Sage brush eaters ~ I’ll pass.

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“Bad Feelings” between the two different types of hunters! 🫢

My wife’s a meat hunter and I’ve stopped her numerous times from taking the first legal animal seen hoping for a trophy animal, several times she failed to fill her tag…..and she’s not a “happy camper” about that! And I am very aware that she is “not” a happy camper! memtb

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Around here we can kill unlimited does. We have antler restrictions for bucks and we only get 2 buck tags with the regular license plus a bonus buck tag for $10. So we're only allowed 3 bucks and 2 of them have to be with different weapons. To fill the freezer, just go out and kill a bunch of does and wait for the big bucks. I passed up a small 7 point last night because next year he'll be much better. I told my son that and he gave me crap because we're still trying to fill our freezers at this point. His wife is pushing him for meat. There's plenty of time to fill the freezers with doe meat if need be. We both have killed 2 does so far this season. There's a couple of big boys hanging around, so I'll save my buck tags for now because the rut is coming.


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Interesting topic Beaver. Thanks for getting the conversation started.

Venison is our primary source of red meat. Mule deer whitetail, sage flats or crop land or big timber all fine with me and mine.

I might “hold out for a big one” once the freezer is full. But the meat comes first.

Despite being a “meat hunter” I have read and studied extensively on ungulate biology and behaviour and spend many hours with maps and satellite images (in the old days air photos) every season.

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Originally Posted by Judman
As far as “poacher”, is it? Says who? Folks have fed their families since the beginning of time with meat.guess it depends how you were raised and where. As for me, if a guy killed a critter and ate it, I’d never turn him in or call him a poacher. 👍

The above is just so much nonsense!! Poachers are thieves, no one in this day and age (needs) to poach wildlife to feed the family, no one. With the government giveaways and welfare I have watched welfare turds load their cart with 20 or 30 lbs of expensive beef steaks, then whip out the welfare so-called Credit card to pay for it. When I see that kind of thing I am so tempted to ask them if I am invited to dinner since I helped pay for their food! The feed the family excuse for being a thief and scumbag was worn out many decades ago!


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Originally Posted by BuzzH
My tags, my hunt, I’ll shoot or not and don’t need to defend my decisions.

I don’t care what others choose to shoot either, or why.

As long as it’s legal and ethical, do your thing and hunt/shoot what you want.

If I see a cow elk here in a little bit I’ll shoot my second elk for the year in wyoming. Going to have to be close, wind is honking up to 60 mph.

Pretty much it


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As far as “poacher”, is it? Says who? Folks have fed their families since the beginning of time with meat.guess it depends how you were raised and where. As for me, if a guy killed a critter and ate it, I’d never turn him in or call him a poacher. 👍

The above is just so much nonsense!! Poachers are thieves, no one in this day and age (needs) to poach wildlife to feed the family, no one. With the government giveaways and welfare I have watched welfare turds load their cart with 20 or 30 lbs of expensive beef steaks, then whip out the welfare so-called Credit card to pay for it. When I see that kind of thing I am so tempted to ask them if I am invited to dinner since I helped pay for their food! The feed the family excuse for being a thief and scumbag was worn out many decades ago!

Well I’ll be a scumbag then, if I was in that position, I’d “steal” wildlife before I ever thought about welfare. Ymmv👍👊🏻


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