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9,3 x 62M load data here... Varget and a multitude of different weight bullets. Good luck with your Easter Egg hunt www.laddata.se/powder/hodgdon-varget
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Thanks. 9.3x62 Mauser | Nosler partition 286 grs | Hodgdon varget 59 grs Submitted by admin on Thu, 07/14/2011 - 11:49 Caliber:
9.3x62 Mauser
Bullet:
Nosler partition
Bullet Weight: 286grs Powder:
Hodgdon varget
Powder Weight: 59.00grs Primer:
Winchester LR
Brass Make:
Norma
C.O.L: 3.23inches Velocity: 2 399fps Barrel Length: 20.50inches Gun: CZ 550 FS Comment: sdt. dev. 18.41 fps, Temp 59 F.
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Simple extrapolation from the Hidgdon site: 286 gr Partition, 59 gr Varget nets 2350 ft/sec at 47,500 CUP. Note that 59 grains is compressed. Rate of increase of 1 gr powder charge is about 20 ft/sec in their pressure barrel and 24 inch length. Pressure changes at a rate of 1925 CUP per 1 grain.
So, assuming you are cool with exceeding 47,500 CUP to reach 2400 ft/sec, you'll need to add about 2.5 grains of Varget to the top end - or 61.5 grains of Varget to push a 286 gr Partition to 2400 ft/sec. 2.5 grains equates to ~ an extra 3850 CUP, or a total pressure of 51350 CUP. I'm not sure what psi 51350 CUP translates to but would pontificate its ~ 63,000 psi.
The only other issue is will 61.5 gr of Varget fit into a 9.3 case at your desired COAL. I'd not sweat compressing the powder - I do it in my 308 w/o issue.
So the come close answer is 61.5 grains of Varget to get you to 2400 ft/sec in a 24 inch barrel. Pressure should be between 60k to 65k psi. I cant tell exactly how much velocity and exact pressure will be given nuances in chamber size, leade, etc. This extrapolation is how I've been doing things for years w/o issue. A drop tube will compress powder.
Good luck. Thank you for the reply. Did the extrapolation and came up w/ 60.8 gr. VARGET and < 60K psi., based on the hodgdonreloading.com and other data. But didn't know if it would fit under the bullet, based on the Nosler % data. Close enough. Can now figure a buy quantity, and ladder up some 270 and 286 gr. loads over the chrono. ... if the powder ever becomes available. GR
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Easy, just exactly the amount Nosler, Barnes, Hodgdon, and Norma load manuals say it will hold.
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According to Hodgdon, H4350 get you to the same place without extrapolating.......
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According to Hodgdon, H4350 get you to the same place without extrapolating....... Interesting suggestion. Available powder. Had ruled it out as being too slow... but it works pretty well w/ the heavier loads, and is still an "Extreme" powder. Wouldn't work too well for the 250 gr. TSX, but could have that on its own powder (1 lb). Uses more powder that the VARGET load, so it will be a little harder on both recoil and throat erosion. ... but could use it for .270/150 gr. loads as well, along w/ the H4831SC. It would also be a better powder for the 230 gr. Woodleigh Weld-core RN/SP's when they become available. GR
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Reloading manual data doesn't tell the full 9.3x62 story.
Nor does guessing pressure with quickload or any other bllsht method.
I can't speak on improperly chambered 9.3x62's but of the 3 9.3x62's I've owned and hunted with, they all had very generous throats.
As expected, these longer throats lower pressure. You see it over the chronograph and you see it on the brass.
In all three (two cz's and an oberndorf sporting mauser), I could load a 300 grain swift a-frame until the base of the bullet was flush with the bottom of the shoulder, not impeding case capacity whatsoever.
This leaves about 70 grains of usable powder capacity with dense ball powders.
Though I would never use leverevolution powder, 71.5 grains fills a norma brass to the base of the shoulder, just for reference.
The crimp groove is improperly placed on the 300 grain a-frame, putting the bullet too low in the brass. Even at this point, 64 grains of alliant 2000 MR easily fit in the case.
Even slower Extruded powders like RL 16, which are not very dense, I am loading 60 grains of the RL 16, as a lower-pressure load for the 1922 oberndorf rifle. I don't want to crack that original stock.
Carry on with the hypothetical, thinking outloud bllsht .......
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Reloading manual data doesn't tell the full 9.3x62 story.
Nor does guessing pressure with quickload or any other bllsht method.
I can't speak on improperly chambered 9.3x62's but of the 3 9.3x62's I've owned and hunted with, they all had very generous throats.
As expected, these longer throats lower pressure. You see it over the chronograph and you see it on the brass.
In all three (two cz's and an oberndorf sporting mauser), I could load a 300 grain swift a-frame until the base of the bullet was flush with the bottom of the shoulder, not impeding case capacity whatsoever.
This leaves about 70 grains of usable powder capacity with dense ball powders.
Though I would never use leverevolution powder, 71.5 grains fills a norma brass to the base of the shoulder, just for reference.
The crimp groove is improperly placed on the 300 grain a-frame, putting the bullet too low in the brass. Even at this point, 64 grains of alliant 2000 MR easily fit in the case.
Even slower Extruded powders like RL 16, which are not very dense, I am loading 60 grains of the RL 16, as a lower-pressure load for the 1922 oberndorf rifle. I don't want to crack that original stock.
Carry on with the hypothetical, thinking outloud bllsht ....... Then 286 gr./2400 fps should be doable w/ VARGET. GR
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