I'm thinking if you're zeroed at 200 the holdover at 300 is only a few inches so if you know the target diameter, it should be fairly straightforward.
If you zero at 250 you may not have to adjust your hold. My .308 is a little slow, but my .270 and .30-06 both have right at 6" verticle change between 200 & 300 yard when zeroed at 250 yards.
I put my name in and got drawn. I shoot next week. The qualification is six shots total, 3 at 200 yards, and 3 at 300 yards. Have to hit all six shots within three minutes to qualify. For the 200 yard shot, position is kneeling or standing. For the 300 yard shot kneeling, standing, or prone. Target is about 12" diameter. The really weird thing is, you are not allowed to adjust your scope. I paraphrase because it takes too much time and it's not realistic in the field. There's a metal post shooters can use for extra support for either range. You have to bring your own pack or bipod for prone. The email said most shooters don't qualify. Theoretically this should be doable for any seasoned hunter/shooter. I wonder if there's something else that comes in play.
There's a video out there of a CPW officer shooting the course clean. He uses a suppressed, PRS type rifle that has zero recoil. 6.5Needmore at most. The thing looks like it weighs 11lbs. And shooters can't adjust the scope because it takes too much time and doesn't mimic shots in the field. Um, ok PRS rifle dude, who carries an 11lb rifle in the field?
Congrats on being drawn, and thanks for the info. Are you allowed to substitute sitting for kneeling? I’d much rather shoot sitting than kneeling. More surface area/mass making contact with the ground.
I have no idea if you can sit. And I agree. It's a much more stable position to shoot from. That's what's weird about all this. The rules are not really practical, but oh-well. I signed up for it.
If you can't keep it in 12" at 300, you'd better put it away and take up golf. You have no business shooting at a live animal.
That would depend on how and where you hunt. I grew up back east hunting whitetails in the Eastern hardwoods. First with a shotgun because rifles aren't allowed in many coastal counties of VA.
Then with a 30-30 in the western counties.I had no idea what the POI was at 300 but it didn't matter because I never got a shot over 100. Killed plenty of deer.
Some interesting comments here. Range is irrelevant as long as a hunter stays within their skill level. I've hand gun hunted, that doesn't mean I should be able to hit a 300 yard target with a 10mm pistol to say I'm worthy. And as Smoke says, really depends on where you hunt. Like Smoke I grew upon in the midwest. I don't think I ever shot a deer farther than 125 yards for the first 20 years of my hunting life. If CPW thinks shots will be taken at 300 yards at this location, by all means, then test for that skill level.
Holding or dialing isn't the point for me. It's the point that CPW thinks there's insufficient time. Their rules contradict themselves. You have three minutes to make six shots. If you can't dial in that time frame you don't qualify. Period. What difference does it make if someone takes two seconds to dial and still makes all their shots in three minutes? That's no different than someone not dialing and making all their shots in three minutes.
Same with kneeling. If they are promoting, and should be, ethical hunting and target skills, sitting is a better choice than kneeling. If you watch the example video there's a metal post that can be used as support for either target shot. If they are testing for real skills, why allow the metal post? Is there a metal post in the woods for us to use too? Just weird. Maybe it's supposed to mimic using a tree for support???
Personally, I signed up knowing these rules, I'll play the game. It's an odd game, but I signed up for it.
I could do it 40 years ago with a M-16A1. I aint as limber as I once was but, with the aide of the post, the kneeling at 200 shouldn't be a problem. 300 prone would be a piece of cake. .30-06 180 grain spitzer @ 2700 fps, zeroed at 200, 9" low at 300 yards.
I could do it 40 years ago with a M-16A1. I aint as limber as I once was but, with the aide of the post, the kneeling at 200 shouldn't be a problem.
Should be but that kneeling technique on the video with the left knee down is "unorthodox." I'd call it the "kneeling when you've got a post to lean on" technique.
Good thing they put the video out and you can practice like that.
Do you have to qualify with the same rifle caliber you are going to hunt with?
Bet more people could qualify with a 22.250 or 243 or 6mm....then if you win a tag, take what you desire.
I can easily hit targets that far, as I shoot a lot at those distances... but kneeling and then prone....kneeling probably still...
prone, my neck doesn't have the range of motion to lift my neck that far back to see that high laying on my chest. I was born with 60% of what the average range of motion is for most people... yet doctor will also tell ya, it would take a gorilla to break my neck. my neck bones are much larger than normal....that part of me is a factory reject...
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I was kind of wondering about him not using the sticks. Using sticks with the post seems like it would be rock solid. Maybe too much going on up front with the bipod mounted.
I noticed with the bipod he didn't use a rear bag.