How was it "our sandbox" regarding trade? And what was the "[bleep]" part?
Had the world done nothing about Putin's adventurism in Ukraine, he would have either installed a puppet, or annexed it, but either way, the goods would still have flowed. He wants to sell, we want to buy. Trade would be the same, but geopolitics would not.
Such short memories.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
The problem from my perspective is that I’ve lost the faith you seem to hold unquestioningly to if you’re going to draw that historical parallel, and that is that our governing elites are the good guys (England) and not the bad guys (Germany).
My sense is that those here who served in the military during the Cold War haven’t appropriately grappled with that question.
Over the past few years I’ve seen the deceptiveness and ways that I’ve been drug into this whole thing and found it pretty distressing.
Our ruling elites are the bad guys on the global stage. By that I mean our government and the oligarchs who control the companies that the government uses to keep us placated.
Your position assumes that those people all of a sudden are doing the right thing in Ukraine.
How was it "our sandbox" regarding trade? And what was the "[bleep]" part?
Had the world done nothing about Putin's adventurism in Ukraine, he would have either installed a puppet, or annexed it, but either way, the goods would still have flowed. He wants to sell, we want to buy. Trade would be the same, but geopolitics would not.
Such short memories.
LMFAO.
Go get your booster, retard.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
So we should just encourage China to take Taiwan so that goods will continue to flow?
Hell no.
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Don't see how empowering our enemies is a good thing for the US.
It's not. My point is that the Ukraine war is not about free trade. As you observe, it's about geopolitics. Putin wants Russia to control Ukraine, for the benefit of Putin's Russia.
Don't see how empowering our enemies is a good thing for the US.
It's not. My point is that the Ukraine war is not about free trade. As you observe, it's about geopolitics. Putin wants Russia to control Ukraine, for the benefit of Putin's Russia.
Our ruling elites are the bad guys on the global stage. By that I mean our government and the oligarchs who control the companies that the government uses to keep us placated.
The only bad guys?
They are all cut from the same cloth. Ours are no worse than theirs.
“What has improved since we we became involved with Ukraine.”
That’s what free thinking is. What Burns, magluia, and antelope sniper do is parrot the words of Karine Jean-Pierre.
Because they’re stupid.
Can you think past Ukraine?
What's the long game look like.
How much different would WWII have looked if the allies supported Czechoslovakia and stopped Hitler there?
The Ignorant one is you who believes Putin would have willingly stopped at the borders of Ukraine. Like Macgregor, you seem willing to let Russia have Ukraine, how about the rest of Europe. Should we just let them have everything behind the old Iron Curtain up to Berlin, or all of Europe, everything to the Atlantic Ocean?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
“What has improved since we we became involved with Ukraine.”
That’s what free thinking is. What Burns, magluia, and antelope sniper do is parrot the words of Karine Jean-Pierre.
Because they’re stupid.
Can you think past Ukraine?
What's the long game look like.
How much different would WWII have looked if the allies supported Czechoslovakia and stopped Hitler there?
The Ignorant one is you who believes Putin would have willingly stopped at the borders of Ukraine. Like Macgregor, you seem willing to let Russia have Ukraine, how about the rest of Europe. Should we just let them have everything behind the old Iron Curtain up to Berlin, or all of Europe, everything to the Atlantic Ocean?
How much different would WWII have looked if the allies supported Czechoslovakia and stopped Hitler there?
The Ignorant one is you who believes Putin would have willingly stopped at the borders of Ukraine. Like Macgregor, you seem willing to let Russia have Ukraine, how about the rest of Europe. Should we just let them have everything behind the old Iron Curtain up to Berlin, or all of Europe, everything to the Atlantic Ocean?
Sure thing, Karine.
Get your booster, Karine.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
So we should just encourage China to take Taiwan so that goods will continue to flow?
Hell no.
Quote
Don't see how empowering our enemies is a good thing for the US.
It's not. My point is that the Ukraine war is not about free trade. As you observe, it's about geopolitics. Putin wants Russia to control Ukraine, for the benefit of Putin's Russia.
Allowing a belligerent nation to invade it's neighbors to steal land and resource is a free trade issue.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
“What has improved since we we became involved with Ukraine.”
That’s what free thinking is. What Burns, magluia, and antelope sniper do is parrot the words of Karine Jean-Pierre.
Because they’re stupid.
Can you think past Ukraine?
What's the long game look like.
How much different would WWII have looked if the allies supported Czechoslovakia and stopped Hitler there?
The Ignorant one is you who believes Putin would have willingly stopped at the borders of Ukraine. Like Macgregor, you seem willing to let Russia have Ukraine, how about the rest of Europe. Should we just let them have everything behind the old Iron Curtain up to Berlin, or all of Europe, everything to the Atlantic Ocean?
JFC
Unbelievable how stupid America's occupants have become.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
The U.S is an Empire, not in the traditional sense, but we are a trading empire, much like the British Empire but one based on capitalism and the willing free flowing exchange of goods vs. one based on Mercantilism.
No, it's based on bribery and coercion through military occupation. Ain't nothing "free" about it except the funny money the Federal Reserve prints.
You're not completely wrong. Fear of Russian had a lot to do with it. We were on the way out of European affairs, reducing our military presence etc., until Russia stirred things up again pushing even more nations toward NATO.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
“What has improved since we we became involved with Ukraine.”
That’s what free thinking is. What Burns, magluia, and antelope sniper do is parrot the words of Karine Jean-Pierre.
Because they’re stupid.
Can you think past Ukraine?
What's the long game look like.
How much different would WWII have looked if the allies supported Czechoslovakia and stopped Hitler there?
The Ignorant one is you who believes Putin would have willingly stopped at the borders of Ukraine. Like Macgregor, you seem willing to let Russia have Ukraine, how about the rest of Europe. Should we just let them have everything behind the old Iron Curtain up to Berlin, or all of Europe, everything to the Atlantic Ocean?
What the fûck do I Joe Sixpack owe the fàggot and his ministers in Kiev? I know what Biden, Romney, et al owe them, at least partially.
I hope that whole fûcking country burns until they overthrow the crossdresser and install a legit government. Till then, I hope Russia burns it to the ground.
“What has improved since we we became involved with Ukraine.”
That’s what free thinking is. What Burns, magluia, and antelope sniper do is parrot the words of Karine Jean-Pierre.
Because they’re stupid.
Can you think past Ukraine?
What's the long game look like.
How much different would WWII have looked if the allies supported Czechoslovakia and stopped Hitler there?
The Ignorant one is you who believes Putin would have willingly stopped at the borders of Ukraine. Like Macgregor, you seem willing to let Russia have Ukraine, how about the rest of Europe. Should we just let them have everything behind the old Iron Curtain up to Berlin, or all of Europe, everything to the Atlantic Ocean?
JFC
Unbelievable how stupid America's occupants have become.
I find it interesting how you didn't give a direct answer to the question.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
The U.S is an Empire, not in the traditional sense, but we are a trading empire, much like the British Empire but one based on capitalism and the willing free flowing exchange of goods vs. one based on Mercantilism.
No, it's based on bribery and coercion through military occupation. Ain't nothing "free" about it except the funny money the Federal Reserve prints.
You're not completely wrong. Fear of Russian had a lot to do with it. We were on the way out of European affairs, reducing our military presence etc., until Russia stirred things up again pushing even more nations toward NATO.
And Russia was going to leave Ukraine alone until the United States fomented a couple coups in the Ukraine.
You're not completely wrong. Fear of Russian had a lot to do with it. We were on the way out of European affairs, reducing our military presence etc., until Russia stirred things up again pushing even more nations toward NATO.
Oh fugking Jesus Christ.
How old are you? Three?
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
