Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire four University of Idaho students killed over the weekend

It's a land grant college. They have to take all high school graduates from Idaho. When I was there, they used freshman English to flunk out those who had no business being in college. I went through with a friend who graduated from both college and medical school with perfect grades except for a B in freshman English. The teacher didn't give A's no matter how well he did in the class.

I've girls this same age, 18 and 21. While mine are fairly street smart, they are not the norm. I'm around a lot of these kids. Take what most in this generation say and throw it out the window. You would be amazed. I put very little credence to the 911 call details from scared [bleep] kids. My girls, their call would be basically the same as would mine. Some of their friends, maybe half, I would not be surprised at all by an "unconscious and unresponsive" description of the situation.

from Foxnews:

So, they haven't identified the weapon yet. This guy says that should it be a Ka-bar military type, it would be a good clue because those aren't common any more. Well, real Kabars might not be common, but there must be millions of Chinese fake Kabars out there. I don't know how many kids have them but there are plenty.

the killer was soaked in blood , OJ only killed 2 and he had blood all over him.

Guessing some of you folks never came to the next morning (or afternoon) after a night of drinking and after party enjoyment to find a roommate or two (or more) passed out on the floor, "unresponsive" at first?

It's easy for me to believe the first floor roommates were passed out when the events upstairs occurred, and I do mean passed out. Oblivious to the world around them and if they might have heard anything unusual they were likely incapable of understanding what it might be.. College party house, people coming and going all the time.

Downstairs roommate A comes too, sees roommate B still out on the floor, goes over shakes them and gets no response. Groggily wonders WTH is going on, then decides maybe I better call 911/EMS. Still somewhat stoned from the night before, never even thinks to go check on the upstairs roommates.

I guess I didn't lead a very sheltered life, as the scenario as I described it would not have been terribly unusual when I was a young man, except for the slashed bodies that is.

Folks passed out, completely out, many times at keg parties and such.

from Foxnews:
Jomathan Gillam is an idiot. If there was no market for KaBars and clones, there would not be dozens available on Amazon imcluding $20 Chinese knock offs. I have seen inexpensive clones in the store made by Ontario Knives.

Coulda been the victims were behind a locked door, someone tries to rouse them for whatever reason. Someone eventually looks through an outside window sees enough to make out someone was inside and or maybe the dog in a crate was barking.

More speculation on my part.

Reports say the victims were all on 2nd and 3rdfloors.

Many, many, many times. More often than not on a Saturday night during my time in Moscow. I could easily see this being the case and the surviving roommates not waking up until noon.

The bizarre 911 call is what has me stumped, though it is very possible, if not probable, that it is being incorrectly reported too.

Or, CTSmith is right and that is just how 20ish year old female minds work these days. My niece and nephew are that age, were raised in Idaho and certainly wouldn’t have consciously thought that way, but who knows…

I agree he's an idiot.
What kind of clues does a K-Bar leave that a Buck doesn't?

Scheidt,

we duct taped a friend to the floor at one party house when he passed out.

I had sunrise services held for me at a bluegrass festival (shine will make things like that occur) and awoke, with a bouquet of flowers on my chest, to a crowd of folks around me cheering for my awakening.

I haven't a clue how 20ish kids nowadays would deal with stuff like that, but it certainly wasn't unusual in my day, and apparently even in yours.

A shrine would have been unusual for me.

What was normal, was for me to wake up on the floor, under a table without pants on and dozens of dicks drawn on my face and arms with sharpies.

Puke piles around and random chicks passed out a couple feet away.

Reports elsewhere say the downstairs person called 911 to report that there was an unconscious person laying in front of the door and they were unable to open it. That may explain the “unconscious ” aspect of the call. Lots of heresay going around.

I am not sure how much sarcasm is here, but they’re using “K-Bar” generically for a big knife and specifically one with either serrations or a saw back. Supposedly the wounds were consistent with those features and coroners can often differentiate wounds made by a foot long blade vs smaller blades.

Possibly, though it wouldn’t be unusual for a person to be passed out in front of a door like that, especially at a known party house. That, and calling 911 to report it instead of just using another door or reaching a hand in to roll the passed out person out of the way seems bizarre. I still think there is a LOT more to this and the LEOs know it. They’re just not releasing it and likely for a good reason.
They must be frustrated with all the speculation and rumors floating around.

If they were rolled in front of a door, how did the killer get out?
I'm sure there's a simple explanation.

To clarify, the downstairs two were stuck downstairs due to a body blocking their doorway out. Not the front door.

Has it been released where the bodies were found?

According to reports all three floors had doors accessing the outside.

How could the two stuck downstairs be stuck? Interior room doors generally are required to open into said room. They were stuck out in the hall?
Dry odd

Osky