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In spec all the things.
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Have any pics from 1999+?
Thanks in advance Show us a few pictures of yours lipshit.
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Have any pics from 1999+?
Thanks in advance Show us a few pictures of yours lipshit. Hey... John's got a friend! That is awesome... You a raging alcoholic also?
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Have any pics from 1999+?
Thanks in advance Show us a few pictures of yours lipshit. He's got a point. Piling on JB seems to be a favorite hobby of folks who don't actually have any idea what makes a good AR anyway. I don't know anything about John Burns or SWFA optics. But I've got $100 that this whole fiasco started because somebody didn't realize there weren't any pic slots at the upper-rail junction. Well, that and I tried it on a number of upper/handguard combos, no dice unless I wanted to leave one screw out, I mounted a WA riser today. I had to leave a screw out where the upper receiver meets the rail because there are no pic slots there. Is that where your screw didn't fit?
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LOL. In spec AR and In spec handguard and in spec riser with flashlight. 10 year old Profitting. ...
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What is this "spec" you keep referring to? Could you point us to a page # in a TDP? Happy Thanksgiving, you big turkey.
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What is this "spec" you keep referring to? Could you point us to a page # in a TDP? Happy Thanksgiving, you big turkey. For countries that have a Moon Rock. Mil Standard 1913Countries that do not have a rock from the moon. STANAG 4694
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Well, that and I tried it on a number of upper/handguard combos, no dice unless I wanted to leave one screw out, I mounted a WA riser today. I had to leave a screw out where the upper receiver meets the rail because there are no pic slots there. Is that where your screw didn't fit?
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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It only took me a year to finally get some time on the AR with the SWFA 1-4 and I'm really pleased with this setup. I took it out to play in the dirt, just to see how much abuse the scope and the rifle can take, and I was humbled. Not a single issue after a day of beating on it...I can't imagine a better combo than this optic with this rifle. It's not meant to be a long range shooter, just something that can handle crowd control from 0-200 yards, and that lit reticle really impressed me.
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That's a durable, functional scope, & it's eye relief & eyebox is not nearly as good as what's available today.
And I've had a couple but have moved on.
And no need to limit your power range to 4x either; plenty of 6x & 8x in the same size package, with even a couple of 10x's but that's a bit much for a small objective to handle well.
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That's a durable, functional scope, & it's eye relief & eyebox is not nearly as good as what's available today.
And I've had a couple but have moved on.
And no need to limit your power range to 4x either; plenty of 6x & 8x in the same size package, with even a couple of 10x's but that's a bit much for a small objective to handle well.
Mm MM, What are you liking in the LPVO world right now? For example, in a 1-8? Or 1-6? Thanks in advance.
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Looks good OP.
I have an Athlon Midas 1-6x24 with an illuminated reticle that I really like. I’m not a fan of buying Chinese products but the Gen 1 was on clearance a few years back for a price too good to pass up and had been great.
I have an astigmatism so really like the LPVO over a red dot. The red dots work for me but the LPVO makes shooting more fun. I can still shoot with both eyes open but with a clean aiming point and the ability to shoot well at longer ranges.
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MM, What are you liking in the LPVO world right now? For example, in a 1-8? Or 1-6?
Thanks in advance. Nothing really high end..........Vortex Strike Eagle & Sig MSR & Tango's in both 6 & 8x. They break, they fix 'em. So far nothing broke but I don't thrown down on cement either. The adjust just fine & hold zero & the reticle are user friendly for the purpose. MM
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so I am guessing the newer made SWFA 1-4's are as durable as the older ones! I might try and find another one myself, used probably.
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Without getting too far into the weeds of comparisons/contrast and lay it out from a guy that has a pile of rounds on an swfa 1-4 and other lpvo’s..
Swfa 1-4 cons The illumination sucks. It isn’t useful at all on a sunny day.
The 1x experience isn’t great. It’s not straight rubbish but it’s not good either. Plenty of warping. Anything close to 1x at that 7-20yard range means 4x is really badly out of focus. This is sample size of 2.
My 2 haven’t tracked very well. No access to notes but on a known 22lr the disparity between reticle and turret was a lot. That’s all I remember.
Not a fan of the reticle.
Exposed turrets on a hard use run-gun need zero stops. I’d rather not use washers.. especially windage
Construction doesn’t scream robust.
Drops from chest high onto snowpacked driveway the zero shifted.. same rings/rails same hour with a known 6x swfa and lrhs passing with flying colors.
Pro:s Weight. In a world of 22-27oz scopes it’s nice to run something so light.
10 mils on the erector is good
Swfa had a good vortex like warranty.
The size is nice
Eye relief and eye box are acceptable.
In review. It doesn’t hold zero, it doesn’t track, 1x sucks, and the illumination is useless But it’s a 275 dollar scope that’s small and lightweight, and it’s not made in china.
Biggest reason I don’t run one on 22lr trainer is the mag ring throws the wrong way. Pisses me off. It’s a perfect scope for that role. Don’t need an ATACR for that kind of rifle.
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