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Great wound track with that 360gr NF Judd, i believe the 326gr Hammer would be a fine bullet, and yes, as you said, "in stock and ready for delivery," that means a chit-ton today.


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I need to reach out to JES and see what he says about the 400.

I’d imagine he’d have to set it back a thread to make it correct?


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Many Thanks for posting those pics Riflecrank, the brass after fireforming is iirc around 2.485 inch, perfect imho, yessir, that one pic had 5 rounds in the belly of the beast, ran em quick through the rifle, damn near hit the south wall of the shop on eject, any guesses why i've told my Wife to NEVER vacuum the carpet in my load shop? with the spilled powder over the decades, live and dead primers, i think that Dyson of hers would be a bomb on wheels ; ]

Ordering from NECG's for that 400 Whelen of yours is next to a fresh baptism from the pastor in a cool summertime creek! cool cant wait to see it when finished, 377gr Hammers at 3.585" from a long action Model 70 would be kickass, our old friend AA-2460 would be a worldstar propellant for the lighter weights in the 400 Whelen, it's near a straight walled hull like the mighty 458 WM+ and we all know what it will do with 2230 and 2460 powders.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
I need to reach out to JES and see what he says about the 400.

I’d imagine he’d have to set it back a thread to make it correct?


Maybe not Big B, rent and have sent to JES that 400 [Petrov] Whelen reamer, look on Quality Cartridge's website for cylindrical brass, CH4D for dies, slowly neck down to get a firm crush fit on bolt closing, trim to 2.490 then fireform, easy as pie Sir.

As Riflecrank said, my fireform loads were/are accurate enough to hunt Africa, iirc longest shot on 2015 Safari was an Impala Ram dead in the chest at 200 yards off sticks with 400gr Woodleigh Weldcore, bullet exited left of nutsack, he never moved, no need wasting the powder and lead.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
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Yes he does 40 calibers. Close as a phone call. HINT1

I have a SS Classic 06 with a grey laminate on it. WOULd make a dandy 400.

Fixed it for ya!

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Originally Posted by gunner500
…any guesses why i've told my Wife to NEVER vacuum the carpet in my load shop? with the spilled powder over the decades, live and dead primers, i think that Dyson of hers would be a bomb on wheels ; ]

Perhaps the most impressive thing I have seen posted is that you have to tell your wife NOT to clean up your shop. The chances of my wife cleaning up my gun room….zero!

I don’t go in her crafting room except to steal stuff out of her mini fridge so I guess it works out.

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Originally Posted by MedRiver
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Yes he does 40 calibers. Close as a phone call. HINT1

I have a SS Classic 06 with a grey laminate on it. WOULd make a dandy 400.

Fixed it for ya!

Ha! Thanks MR!


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Solid copy Gunner. I’ll give Jess a ring.


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Originally Posted by MedRiver
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…any guesses why i've told my Wife to NEVER vacuum the carpet in my load shop? with the spilled powder over the decades, live and dead primers, i think that Dyson of hers would be a bomb on wheels ; ]

Perhaps the most impressive thing I have seen posted is that you have to tell your wife NOT to clean up your shop. The chances of my wife cleaning up my gun room….zero!

I don’t go in her crafting room except to steal stuff out of her mini fridge so I guess it works out.


LOL, my Wife is a busy little bee always getting into something, have to keep an eye of here around here, she runs marathons for crying out loud, way too much energy, be damned, my Wife is into crafting too, we may need to get Wives introduced while you and i go out and shoot something, hmmm ; ]


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Solid copy Gunner. I’ll give Jess a ring.


Ten foe Big B, hope your '06 barrel has enough fat to make JES comfortable with his 40 cal drill bit.


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BTW, winds blowing a million miles an hour out of the S/SW today so no reason to try and hunt deer or shoot for groups for that matter.

Ran out to the shop and drop tubed in another 68gr CFE-223 under some homemade .411" 400gr partitions, seated them at 3.370 inch, five went into the belly and ejected just fine, average of 2267 fps 18 feet from the chrono for three shots with a e.s. of 14 fps, man i'll take that, has a lot to say about Riflecranks talent running the draw down dies, fine work Sir.

I used that longer partition bullet to show how easy the shorter and sometimes available for purchase the .411" 400gr A-Frames will run in a 400 Whelen, all game worldwide up to elephant head shots and this side of 300 yards is well covered here.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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Solid copy Gunner. I’ll give Jess a ring.


Ten foe Big B, hope your '06 barrel has enough fat to make JES comfortable with his 40 cal drill bit.

Yeah, me as well. It’s a Winchester Sporter barrel. I’ll have to measure it and see what it goes.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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…any guesses why i've told my Wife to NEVER vacuum the carpet in my load shop? with the spilled powder over the decades, live and dead primers, i think that Dyson of hers would be a bomb on wheels ; ]

Perhaps the most impressive thing I have seen posted is that you have to tell your wife NOT to clean up your shop. The chances of my wife cleaning up my gun room….zero!

I don’t go in her crafting room except to steal stuff out of her mini fridge so I guess it works out.


..we may need to get Wives introduced while you and i go out and shoot something, hmmm ; ]

Sounds good to me!

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Originally Posted by gunner500
BTW, winds blowing a million miles an hour out of the S/SW today so no reason to try and hunt deer or shoot for groups for that matter.

Ran out to the shop and drop tubed in another 68gr CFE-223 under some homemade .411" 400gr partitions, seated them at 3.370 inch, five went into the belly and ejected just fine, average of 2267 fps 18 feet from the chrono for three shots with a e.s. of 14 fps, man i'll take that, has a lot to say about Riflecranks talent running the draw down dies, fine work Sir.

I used that longer partition bullet to show how easy the shorter and sometimes available for purchase the .411" 400gr A-Frames will run in a 400 Whelen, all game worldwide up to elephant head shots and this side of 300 yards is well covered here.

Is there anything your Mauser won't eat??? Good stuff Jerry.

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Originally Posted by MedRiver
My rifle feeds best with a shorter OAL so I had to back off some powder charges to avoid overpressuring. Velocities still seemed decent when I shot over the chrono yesterday afternoon with Reloder 10x (thanks Mainer) and a 360 North Fork. The extra freebore compensating for the capacity loss????

Pressures seemed good in the 2225-2275 range with sized, trimmed, and annealed Virgin QC brass. Stepped up to a tad over 2300 and the primer was flat. Never had any extraction or bolt lift issues.

Decided to be kind to the brass and stuck at 2225 which will keep the NF above 1800 fps to 200 yards.

You're welcome, you did good. The foolishness of jamming a bunch of slow ball powder in a lightweight short-barrel carbine/ 400 Whelen, only increases recoil with no increase in velocity. As you've experienced, the 2,300 fps sweet-spot using RL-10x, is a good place to be. Recovery from recoil is quick.

You have a very good Alaskan rifle. I've made a couple long shots with a 1.5-5 on a 9.3x62 mauser.. A 500 yd shot on a bull moose, and a 400 yd shot on a winter caribou. It's a well suited scope for typical ranges you'd shoot with a 350 grain 41 caliber.

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"The foolishness of jamming a bunch of slow ball powder in a lightweight short-barrel carbine/ 400 Whelen, only increases recoil with no increase in velocity. "

Yeh, but the thrill of the fire ball.


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Originally Posted by MedRiver
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Has anyone had JES rebore a rifle to 400 Whelen and how did it work out for you?


I guess that's a no, but at least you guys can take pretty pictures.

He did my .35 but I don’t know if he does .400s or not. I don’t know of anyone with a JES .400 but he is good about calling back if you leave a message.


Thanks, but I wasn't asking if he does it, I know he does, I was asking if anyone has had a 400 Whelen done by him.


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QC on the Left - RP .35 on the right

Pretty signifanct difference in case head design. Anyone have any insight on that???

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QC on the Left - RP .35 on the right

Pretty signifanct difference in case head design. Anyone have any insight on that???

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The quality in Quality Cartridges has always been suspect to me.


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