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If a high end destination for pheasant hunting decided to hire a "resort manager" or a "general manager" to run the operation...where would one look for that kind of talent?

Other lodges, other resorts, hospitality industry...seems too specialized to have broad employee search techniques applied but perhaps that is the way to approach it. I can't imagine that the job requirements at their core are a lot different from one type of resort to the next. Food service, facility maintenance, HR, etc. Some nuances to be sure but at core, seems the same to me. Thoughts from anyone?


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Check with Slumlord, he's been Pheasant Hunting with everybody who is anybody.


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Maybe I’m wrong but I’d think someone taking that job would need to know a lot about habitat and pheasant rearing methods etc along with the hospitality knowledge. Then again is that a seperate manager hire?

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That person needs to understand people first and foremost. They need to understand the wants and needs of ornery, rich dudes that always get their way. People pay the bills, not the pheasants. I'd look for a previous guide, resort manager, even general contractor that did high end customs, on LinkedIn, indeed, NSSA job bulletin, and definitely call/email targeted individuals currently employed.

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Originally Posted by Osky
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d think someone taking that job would need to know a lot about habitat and pheasant rearing methods etc along with the hospitality knowledge. Then again is that a seperate manager hire?

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I'd think I'd want 2 roles.

One to manage the business, one to manage the habitat/science.

I'd look to hospitality/hotel/resort types for the former, maybe Pheasant's Forever/DNR for the latter. Expensive I know but I'm feeling like top talent for one is unlikely to have top chops in the other at the same time.


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Maybe I’m wrong but I’d think someone taking that job would need to know a lot about habitat and pheasant rearing methods etc along with the hospitality knowledge. Then again is that a seperate manager hire?

Osky

I'd think I'd want 2 roles.

One to manage the business, one to manage the habitat/science.

I'd look to hospitality/hotel/resort types for the former, maybe Pheasant's Forever/DNR for the latter. Expensive I know but I'm feeling like top talent for one is unlikely to have top chops in the other at the same time.

Makes sense. An unknown is the rest of the year? What if any is this upper end set up doing for revenue structure other than pheasant hunts? Hard to think operating costs, taxes, base improvements, asset upkeep, year round utilities etc can be supported by a pheasant season. Maybe.
I think there is a lot more to this operation we don’t have info on.

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Thanks for responses so far, keep them coming, this is helping. Habitat management/pheasant biology is pretty well baked in already, not alot of call to change that up. What a GM needs to know about it will come fairly easily. Pheasants delivered every other day, need to source them from several operations in order to minimize risk. This is much more about making sure the guests are given the experience they crave/pay for. Delivering on the promise, I guess is one way to put it.


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Maybe I’m wrong but I’d think someone taking that job would need to know a lot about habitat and pheasant rearing methods etc along with the hospitality knowledge. Then again is that a seperate manager hire?

Osky

I'd think I'd want 2 roles.

One to manage the business, one to manage the habitat/science.

I'd look to hospitality/hotel/resort types for the former, maybe Pheasant's Forever/DNR for the latter. Expensive I know but I'm feeling like top talent for one is unlikely to have top chops in the other at the same time.

Makes sense. An unknown is the rest of the year? What if any is this upper end set up doing for revenue structure other than pheasant hunts? Hard to think operating costs, taxes, base improvements, asset upkeep, year round utilities etc can be supported by a pheasant season. Maybe.
I think there is a lot more to this operation we don’t have info on.

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The fancy "wedding location/banquet" is popular here with raised pheasant/sporting clays clubs as a revenue stream. That and open restaurant/kitchen Thur-Sat nights too.

The more you ask of 1 person to do - the less each area of expertise gets attention. Splitting time between the business and the property means, at best, each gets 50% of that guy's attention which can lead to a lot getting missed and pressure on the other 1/2 of the equation.


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Try looking for the manager of a Country Club. They know how to keep rich people happy. Most have knowledge about customer service, the physical plant, working with the superintendent of the golf course...........
They wear a lot of hats.


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Lots of overlap with CC management, I agree.


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I was at a high-end quail shooting operation (if you consider $2000/day high end) a few weeks ago. There is a guy who manages the kennels/dogs/training/guides/hunting activities, but has nothing to do with food, hospitality, agricultural operations or horses. He does have a home on the property and is on the books as a sub-contractor.



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I think I would look for a outgoing dude with a wildlife management background. Someone with a working knowledge of habitat that has common sense and can deal with people.

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Originally Posted by BKinSD
If a high end destination for pheasant hunting decided to hire a "resort manager" or a "general manager" to run the operation...where would one look for that kind of talent?

Other lodges, other resorts, hospitality industry...seems too specialized to have broad employee search techniques applied but perhaps that is the way to approach it. I can't imagine that the job requirements at their core are a lot different from one type of resort to the next. Food service, facility maintenance, HR, etc. Some nuances to be sure but at core, seems the same to me. Thoughts from anyone?

I have a friend who performs this role for a high end fishing “resort” in eastern ID. She’s an outdoorsy person but no fly fishing expert to be sure. Her skills and background are more from the GM side and in general a person who wants things to go smoothly and for everyone to have an incredible time for the money they spend.

Before this role, she remodeled and was running her own salon/spa/AirBB location which is still hers but she delegated to her employees.

My point is, it’s probably more about the person, their experience, and outlook than anything...you probably already know someone who could do a great job because they’re doing a great job at something else right now.


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Look at Harpole’s Heartland Lodge for a business model of how to generate multiple revenue streams, including pheasant hunting but not solely dependent on it.

You may call around to places like this to see if their current owner or manager knows of the type you of manager you are looking for, and who is available


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Get the number of every "like" business you can find....sort out the ones with the best reviews.....call and ask to speak to manager.... offer job.

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I know someone who checks off all of the boxes and forwarded this thread.


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Get the number of every "like" business you can find....sort out the ones with the best reviews.....call and ask to speak to manager.... offer job.

Careful with this. Can cast you and your lodge in a bad light as a poacher.


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Originally Posted by BKinSD
If a high end destination for pheasant hunting decided to hire a "resort manager" or a "general manager" to run the operation...where would one look for that kind of talent?

Other lodges, other resorts, hospitality industry...seems too specialized to have broad employee search techniques applied but perhaps that is the way to approach it. I can't imagine that the job requirements at their core are a lot different from one type of resort to the next. Food service, facility maintenance, HR, etc. Some nuances to be sure but at core, seems the same to me. Thoughts from anyone?

Coolworks.com used to be a site I used to find specialty jobs like that.


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Thanks for the tips and the thoughts, keep them coming


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