Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42 vs SWFA 3-15x42

Fact. If they are good, they are good. I will buy what fits my needs.

I get the made in China thing, but it’s pretty funny we all use laptops, phones and other crap that is as well. At least Athlon is up front about it. Others aren’t so much.

If I could buy a laptop, phone, etc., that was made elsewhere, I would.

Was nervous there for a bit,but thankfully...no Reupold inside! Hint.



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This! ^^^^ There's a HUGE difference between having a choice and not having a choice, especially when it comes to "toys" (wants) vs. needs.

There's also a difference between every manufacturer sourcing one component (or type of component) like leaded glass from the only country that produces it (perhaps due to environmental standards in the developed world), and a particular company making the whole product in that same country.

I've zero qualm doing business,with folks who shoot things straight. Something that Reupold won't do. Hint.





Thn again,I hear through The Grapevine,that the 2-12's track,repeat and hold zero too...which are refreshing changes. Hint................(grin)

the 3-15 SWFA I tested demonstrated right reticle travel when dialed up for windage. keep in mind the actual POI will be the opposite of the reticle travel when viewing it moving. I have a 20x SWFA SS fixed model that has right reticle travel and the clicks don't match up. To be fair its very possible not to notice either of the flaws in either scope in actual use if you don't dial the scope very much or far in its erector travel ie only shooting to 500 yards. for the haters tracking doesn't change if its in a PRS match or a playground, or for that matter in a laboratory. the error will be error regardless of location.

we need to put to bed the notion the SWFA scopes are flawless. some models may very well be. the 3x9 is excellent, both glass and tracking. the 10x tracking excellent. 3-15 and 20x FAIL. want reliable and proven, buy a nightforce.

I just ordered a 2-12 to go on my 6.5 PRC. It's replacing a 10x SWFA SS. Love the scope, tracks very well, but I just don't like the reticle at last light. Looks like the Athlon will solve that.

In "fairness" I barely have 100 SWFA scopes and it's "quaint" that cumsincowboys with her (3) SuperSoaker "rifles",has "issues" with her wares that don't exist. Hint.

Bless her poor poor(literally) heart,for trying though.

Hint.

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Anyone happen to know the mounting distance on the Athlon 2-12? Pdf attached to the 2-12 says 5.8 inches. That seems a tad long for an 11 inch scope, esp given the 5.1 inches for the NF SHV 3-10 of the same length.

What in the EXACT fhuqk,is "mounting distance",in your book? Hint...............

Hint: the maximum allowable distance between the ocular and objective lens housing. Not everyone is enamored with a rail.....

Dumbfhuqk,

A rail doesn't "change" that. Hint.

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5.876 is what I get on mine

Thank you.

Maybe you could enlighten me on the purpose of the slots on the top side of a picattiny rail? And while your at it, maybe you could pontificate on the lowest ring/picatnny rail system. I actually might could learn something.........

I could do a lot of things,all of which are beyond your "means","abilities" and "comprehension"...not that I don't enjoy your Hurt Feeler Reports and Professional Victim Status updates. Hint.

Don't "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for doing your best.

Hint.

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Couldn't stand it...and wanted it done/did,for fresh tracks in the snow. Hint..............

Do us a solid - set the focus for whatever range with the rifle on a rest. Then, while looking through the scope, move your eye back & forth, up & down. Does the reticle appear to move around the target?

Last Athlon I tried had >3 MOA of vertical parallax that couldn't be adjusted out.

You will never get a straight answer from Stick.

I bought one of these from Doug a while back (came out about $425+/-). Very very impressive low cost scope. The Eye Box is NOT great (i.e. typical of a 2-12 in this price range).

I have a tackle box of Leupold STD rings... Super Low to Super high... regular and extended. I'll report back with what my final selection is. Best guess is Medium, but maybe Low will work. Doubt the extended will be needed.

Stick does post picks and that is a good thing. He also hunts in real time... another positive (i.e. he doesn't repost pics from 2 decades ago like Burns always does).

But his gammar and spelling is atrocious.

Durable quality scope for cheap money...

Stick will whine about Leupold STDs... but they are fine iffing ya ain't a gorilla troll.