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I'm with you Rockchuck. I have seen a half dozen pics of them where they have their arms wrapped around each other. Very friendly. And they slept in the same bed.

This only matters because, cops are always looking for a jilted lover as the murderer. If one gal had a boyfriend, and then she went lesbo, that might have driven the ex boyfriend crazy.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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The two girls killed while sleeping in the same bed- - - - -"friends with benefits", maybe? Several pictures of them sort of suggest they might have a little more than a platonic relationship.
I suggested that earlier but was briskly told by the Fire that all 20 year old girls are like that. I'm not convinced.

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And just like the Mom of one and the drug charges......................


does this news have any bearing on the case?


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Dad of slain Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves turns to P.I.s as cops too ‘inexperienced’

December 5, 2022
The grieving father of murdered University of Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves is working with his own private investigators — because he fears cops in the major case are too “inexperienced.”

Steve Goncalves raised his fears Sunday in an exclusive interview with The Post, saying he was also concerned that one suspicious character had been ruled out too quickly — seemingly allowing him to flee the country without taking a DNA test.

He lashed out at the lack of leads coming from cops, who backtracked on claims that the killer appeared to be targeting at least one of the four roommates and have yet to even suggest a profile of the likely slasher.

One of the murder squad officers is only 26, he complained, meaning he was only 19 when the sleepy city of Moscow last had a slaying, in 2015.

“So they’re just inexperienced — and I don’t want anyone making mistakes in my child’s case,” Goncalves told The Post, also blasting the officers as “not exactly the most tech-savvy people.”

As well as his own fears, Goncalves said started working with private investigators because there were “enough insiders telling us we should be concerned” about the lack of any clear leads in the Nov. 13 murders of his 21-year-old daughter and her three friends.

“I talk to detectives,” he said, making clear he was keeping away from internet sleuths, whom he dismissed as “Hollywood s–t.”

“One of the private detectives I talked to has 50 years in the game,” he said of his outside help.

That gumshoe told him that he “had to break cases when there wasn’t DNA,'” suggesting younger cops rely on it too much.

"We’re trying to give them the benefit of the doubt,” he said of police investigators.

The grieving dad still hopes cops will “be heroes” and prove him wrong by ultimately emerging with breakthroughs that solve the case.

"I’ll apologize. I’ll come out and say ‘These guys had amazing DNA or some evidence and good for them. I was giving them s–t and I take it back.’

“I’d love to be wrong and we can get this guy,” he told The Post.

Goncalves said he is only speaking out because of his alarm at the lack of leads, including the refusal to release an official profile of the likely slasher in the Nov. 13 attack.

That would “give all these other girls that are walking around that community somebody to look out for,” Goncalves told The Post.

“Don’t make more victims,” he warned.

He admitted that he also fears that a hoodie-wearing man spotted lingering near his daughter and her best friend, Madison Mogen, also 21, was ruled out too quickly for killing the pair and their two friends.


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“Some people came to us and said that he’s out of the country. He didn’t take a DNA test,” he said.


“So we would like [police] to tell us what his alibi was,” he said, saying he would be able to move on if they could confirm it was “solid.”

Vague, mixed messaging on whether the killer likely targeted at least one of the four roommates — and why — could also lead to a dangerously false sense of security, he warned.

“I’ve heard people talk to [reporters] and say that they’d be way more scared if it wasn’t targeted,” he noted.

“Some people think that means they [the victims] were gambling or they were doing drugs or they were doing something that really made them [the killer] come after them,” he said of the lack of info.

“My message is, I think having a couple of beers with your girlfriend, going home, texting and crashing out in the bed together, I think a lot of girls did that,” he said of his daughter and Mogen, who were sleeping in the same bed in a third-floor bedroom when they were killed.

“And a lot would be targeted if that’s all they did,” he said.

His daughter and her best friend were brutally stabbed to death along with Xana Kernodle and her boyfriend, Ethan Chapin, both 20, who were in a bed on the second floor. 

Two other roommates who were asleep on the ground floor of the Moscow home were unharmed and likely slept through the bloodbath, police said.

Goncalves bluntly admitted on “Fox & Friends” Sunday that he does “not feel confident” in the investigation.

“I did sit down with … the lead investigator, and I looked in his eyes and I got a sense that this guy was going to do everything in his power to get — to figure something out,” he said. 

"But if the evidence isn’t there, that’s the part that I’m concerned [about],'” he told the Fox show of the apparent lack of leads.

“And that’s why I push the envelope and say a little bit more” than police want him to air publicly on what he gets told, he said..

“I hate to be that guy, but … everybody has a job and a role to play and this is my role as the parent,” he said.

The Moscow Police Department, which is being helped by state police and the FBI, did not immediately respond to a request for comment early Monday.

On Saturday, the force declared that it was working through around 6,500 tips submitted, including more than 1,000 to the FBI.

Investigators also had 113 pieces of physical evidence as well as around 4,000 crime scene photographs, the force said.

Still, “at this time, no suspect has been identified,” the force said, stating that “only vetted information that does not hinder the investigation will be released to the public” because “speculation, without factual backing,” has been “stoking community fears and spreading false information.”


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I'm with you Rockchuck. I have seen a half dozen pics of them where they have their arms wrapped around each other. Very friendly. And they slept in the same bed.

This only matters because, cops are always looking for a jilted lover as the murderer. If one gal had a boyfriend, and then she went lesbo, that might have driven the ex boyfriend crazy.
Homosexuals, even lesbians, are notoriously violent.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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I'm with you Rockchuck. I have seen a half dozen pics of them where they have their arms wrapped around each other. Very friendly. And they slept in the same bed.

This only matters because, cops are always looking for a jilted lover as the murderer. If one gal had a boyfriend, and then she went lesbo, that might have driven the ex boyfriend crazy.
Homosexuals, even lesbians, are notoriously violent.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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I'm with you Rockchuck. I have seen a half dozen pics of them where they have their arms wrapped around each other. Very friendly. And they slept in the same bed.

This only matters because, cops are always looking for a jilted lover as the murderer. If one gal had a boyfriend, and then she went lesbo, that might have driven the ex boyfriend crazy.
Homosexuals, even lesbians, are notoriously violent.

Link?
Notoriously violent Paul. Notoriously.

I can hardly recall a week that's gone by around here without at least one brutal slashing, maybe a few head shots, or a decapitation by the local gay folks.

Meanwhile, I never, ever see a domestic violence call in the Sheriff's Blotter involving heterosexual folks.


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you do realize that that's a story about violent victimization and not stating that
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you do realize that that's a story about violent victimization and not stating that
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When the top google hit fails you.

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AKASparky - " ... December 5, 2022
The grieving father of murdered University of Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves is working with his own private investigators — because he fears cops in the major case are too “inexperienced. ..."

I do not think I'd make such a rash statement saying the homicide investigators from The FBI or the Idaho State Police are "too inexperienced" to investigate these terrible homicide incidents. Perhaps the Moscow Police Dept., is inexperienced but not those heavy hitters.

Goncalves, in my opinion, is not helping at all.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
I'm with you Rockchuck. I have seen a half dozen pics of them where they have their arms wrapped around each other. Very friendly. And they slept in the same bed.

This only matters because, cops are always looking for a jilted lover as the murderer. If one gal had a boyfriend, and then she went lesbo, that might have driven the ex boyfriend crazy.
Homosexuals, even lesbians, are notoriously violent.

Link?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14650663/

Actually, domestic violence is about 24x more prevalent for lesbians and about 130x more for homosexual men.
There's plenty of info out there, if you actually care to look. The Gay mafia tries to bury it.

You perverts are gonna hate this, but there is a lot of facts at https://www.massresistance.org/docs/info2/knowledge/index.html


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
I'm with you Rockchuck. I have seen a half dozen pics of them where they have their arms wrapped around each other. Very friendly. And they slept in the same bed.

This only matters because, cops are always looking for a jilted lover as the murderer. If one gal had a boyfriend, and then she went lesbo, that might have driven the ex boyfriend crazy.
Homosexuals, even lesbians, are notoriously violent.

Link?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14650663/

Actually, domestic violence is about 24x more prevalent for lesbians and about 130x more for homosexual men.
There's plenty of info out there, if you actually care to look. The Gay mafia tries to bury it.

You perverts are gonna hate this, but there is a lot of facts at https://www.massresistance.org/docs/info2/knowledge/index.html

Going by what simonkenton postulated, i.e. a boyfriend that went nusto, does the situation become a domestic violence incident between gay folks, or one involving heterosexuals? Who's perpetrating the violence?

there is this other thing, taken directly from the pubmed article you linked. It may not be inconsequential:

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Domestic violence appears to be more frequently reported in same-sex partnerships than among the married.


I'll guess they used the term "married" in that article as it is nearly 20 years old, before same sex marriage was legally recognized in most cases. They might have had to change the terminology in today's world.


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It's all because of that violent breakfast cereal they eat- - - -"Q U E E R I O S"- - - - -pour the milk on 'em and they eat each other!


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Could be a jilted/rejected bull dyke.


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AKASparky - " ... December 5, 2022
The grieving father of murdered University of Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves is working with his own private investigators — because he fears cops in the major case are too “inexperienced. ..."
I do not think I'd make such a rash statement saying the homicide investigators from The FBI or the Idaho State Police are "too inexperienced" to investigate these terrible homicide incidents. Perhaps the Moscow Police Dept., is inexperienced, but not those heavy hitters.
Goncalves, in my opinion, is not helping at all.
L.W.

I agree, he's isn't helping them in the way they've chosen to handle the case.
He's done with them, lost any faith he may have had in them producing results.

He's gonna do it his way now, I wish him the best of luck.


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Simply amazing how out of touch some of you old, feeble, religious hypocrites are.
Quick to spout off a bible verse in defense of your stance of what you see as sin, but
beyond blind when the plank is sticking out of your eye. Disgusting. My two daughters
both act the same as K & M when with their besties, all the time. Always have. They are both married now... to men(oh, my God)
and still are the same touchy feelie way with there girlfriends. Are they sinning? You sick bastards don't have a clue
and prove your ignorance every day. Merry Christmas. You do more damage to the cause, then positive, by far.
Milestones around your necks is doing you a favor. At least it's quick.


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Simply amazing how out of touch some of you old, feeble, religious hypocrites are.
Quick to spout off a bible verse in defense of your stance of what you see as sin, but
beyond blind when the plank is sticking out of your eye. Disgusting. My two daughters
both act the same as K & M when with their besties, all the time. Always have. They are both married now... to men(oh, my God)
and still are the same touchy feelie way with there girlfriends. Are they sinning? You sick bastards don't have a clue
and prove your ignorance every day. Merry Christmas. You do more damage to the cause, then positive, by far.
Milestones around your necks is doing you a favor. At least it's quick.

Nice to see someone here has some class!

Great post!

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Could be a jilted/rejected bull dyke.
Or maybe the dog?

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Originally Posted by wageslave
Simply amazing how out of touch some of you old, feeble, religious hypocrites are.
Quick to spout off a bible verse in defense of your stance of what you see as sin, but
beyond blind when the plank is sticking out of your eye. Disgusting. My two daughters
both act the same as K & M when with their besties, all the time. Always have. They are both married now... to men(oh, my God)
and still are the same touchy feelie way with there girlfriends. Are they sinning? You sick bastards don't have a clue
and prove your ignorance every day. Merry Christmas. You do more damage to the cause, then positive, by far.
Milestones around your necks is doing you a favor. At least it's quick.
You're Bringin' it 'slave.

Good to see a post from you.

Hoping all is well and you're catching some of those fishies I helped save.

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