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Originally Posted by FNWhelen
Swamplord it is clear you have nothing of value to add in this thread or any other so from this point on I will not bother to read anything you post.
For those who did make posts of value I thank you.

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Originally Posted by gitem_12
i never understood why they didn't make a 338 WSM

Exactly~!

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Originally Posted by FNWhelen
Swamplord it is clear you have nothing of value to add in this thread or any other so from this point on I will not bother to read anything you post.
For those who did make posts of value I thank you.

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At the time Winchester said they couldn't get the velocity they wanted with the .338 bullets so went with the 8mm. Doesn't make sense to me, but that was what was reported.

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I sold my own 325 WSM but I liked it. 160 Grain TTSX bullets made a nice sheep load at 3150 fps and 250 grain Woodleighs where death on moose. I sold it as the light weight A-Bolt had a poor design to handle the recoil of the heavy bullet loads and I preferred my 358 Norma. No flies on the cartridge itself and it is a fine choice as is.

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I wouldn't say "I love my .325 wsm", but it has a place in my safe, shoots and feeds very well, and I am very fond of Kimber's in general, so there is that.

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Originally Posted by North61
I sold my own 325 WSM but I liked it. 160 Grain TTSX bullets made a nice sheep load at 3150 fps and 250 grain Woodleighs where death on moose. I sold it as the light weight A-Bolt had a poor design to handle the recoil of the heavy bullet loads and I preferred my 358 Norma. No flies on the cartridge itself and it is a fine choice as is.
I have an A-bolt in 260 and was surprised it kicked like it did ( I know ....weenie in comparison). Swapped recoil pad for a Sims and all that got me was carpet fibers stuck to it. eek

Swapped it for a B and C stock and WOW what an improvement in comfort. Can't image a day at the range with a 325 and original stock would be what I call enjoyable.


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I'm a fan. I have a Montana also. I haven't gotten to work up much with it, but for bullet choices I have:
160gr TTSX
175gr ACP
180gr TSX
198gr Hammer Hunter
200gr TSX
200gr Nosler Accubond & Partition
220gr Swift A-Frame

The 200gr TSX is my top choice with a B.C. of 0.421 and between 2700-2950 fps. Good to 500yds, no problem. Cautiously optimistic about the Hammer Hunters...
p.s. For equivalent pressure of a moderate load, the 325 with at 200gr TTSX will be carrying about 200ftlbs more energy than the 300 WSM with a 200gr TTSX.

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Originally Posted by hogan
Originally Posted by gitem_12
i never understood why they didn't make a 338 WSM

Exactly~!


You didn't read much or do any research. Winchester tried to make a 338 WSM, thinking it would be a "natural". No matter what they tried, it didn't perform well, so they narrowed it down to an 8MM, but they knew enough to realize the American average shooting public nimrod looked down their noses at anything 8MM, named it the 325 and marketed it that way.

The 338 WSM was a failure of design. It's been written about plenty.

I loved my Kimber MT 325. There was no other LW production rifle in a relatively powerful medium bore at the time I got it. It was to be a plains game/elk/moose rifle my deteriorating back could pack around, and for that it was great. With a 3-9 Leupold it was sweet to carry and plenty accurate. My grandson has it now and would mess up pretty badly anyone who tried to get it away from him.

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Originally Posted by AK35Whelen
I'm a fan. I have a Montana also. I haven't gotten to work up much with it, but for bullet choices I have:
160gr TTSX
175gr ACP
180gr TSX
198gr Hammer Hunter
200gr TSX
200gr Nosler Accubond & Partition
220gr Swift A-Frame

The 200gr TSX is my top choice with a B.C. of 0.421 and between 2700-2950 fps. Good to 500yds, no problem. Cautiously optimistic about the Hammer Hunters...
p.s. For equivalent pressure of a moderate load, the 325 with at 200gr TTSX will be carrying about 200ftlbs more energy than the 300 WSM with a 200gr TTSX.
From your handle I think you have a Whelen. How does felt recoil compare?

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I think I read somewhere that the .358wsm is decent.


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I think the 325 is a bit stiffer and faster recoil. But I have it in a light stock. It is just a bit under 6.5lbs with the scope. The Whelen is a sporterized Gewher 98 with a wood stock. I don't have the weight on that one, but its a wood stock, so guessing it is around 7.5lbs. I've heard the recoil on the 325 is untenable, but it doesn't bother me much for something I don't shoot much.

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I love mine and will use it for life. Without it, I am unsure whether the satellite bull I bagged this year would have gone down before getting too far away due to my suboptimal shot placement.

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Let me know if you want to sell or trade for a 338 Federal in a Sako?

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Yeah. If anyone is looking to part with their sucky, no-good 325 WSM at a reasonable price, preferably it being an XPR, give me a PM.

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I like my 325 WSM Montana too. There was a member on here who used one to kill a number of grizzlies in AK. Seemed to work with no issues.


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Originally Posted by JMR40
I never understood why they ever made it. A 300 WSM shoots the same bullet weights to the same speed, will shoot flatter and retain velocity better down range. An 8mm bullet is less than 1/2 the thickness of a dime greater in diameter than a 308 bullet so it ain't going to make a bigger hole.

Sounds like the 270 vs 280 argument.


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