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Any S&W revolvers have that problem?

I thought this was about the old Type 94 Nambu auto pistol

I have three P320's, one is an original model from when they first came out. Thousands of rounds downrange between them and no issues. With or without holsters.

I carry one of these pistols almost everyday, and have confidence in the design. They passed the DoD testing, thousands have been issued but we don't hear about our troops being wounded by their sidearms.

I suspect something else may be at work here.

As far ad I've been able to determine the only ones that have been experiencing these issues are those that do not have the manual thumb safety--- something all the military 320s have.
Most of the unintentional discharges are almost certainly due to improper holsters, poor gun handling, etc.
However, the one that happened with the gentleman at the match is a different issue. The gun was already holstered and not being handled.
So, yes, I do suspect that there may well be an issue with the P320 that makes it potentially dangerous....enough so that I will not carry mine with a round in the chamber, and is going to be sold.

Well, since you own two of them there must not be a problem. Glad it was all cleared up.

I don’t own a Sig but I do own a Remington 700 with the Walker trigger that would fire when the safety was disengaged. Tons of guys would declare that they ‘own one and never had a problem’ so there must not be an issue. But there is.

Do you *really* think that you owning a grand total of two handguns and not having any problems completely clears the entire issue? Or is it possible that only some of them have a problems? Or maybe you just haven’t had a problem *yet*? A sample size of 2 is pretty small.

Nope. They also don't hold schiet for ammo.

Excellent Idea, make it someone else's problem.

My m&p 40 did be for i fixed it had to get what was referred to me as the candy cane bent back into the proper arch. before the fix if the slide was moved from side to side or lateral movement was applied to slide it would fire with out pulling the tiger. and i found this before i even attempted to load a loaded mag in to brand new M&P 40 Vtac

I'll be the first to say competition shooters get used to a certain trigger and think they wanted demand it on a carry weapon and that's not always a great deal...
whether this is related to the article or not I do not know I did not watch the video it's like using a bench rest trigger and a hunting rifle it's just not the wisest idea all the time..

It can happen

Seems dubious to me. I have 2 Sig P320 X5 Legions that I shoot in competition (IDPA, USPSA etc.) and have thousands of rounds through them. In addition I know lots of other competition shooters who shoot them regularly. I've never heard of such a thing. I suppose it's possible such a problem exists, but I'm skeptical.

Nope. Not going to make it someone else's problem. If sold, the potential issues will be fully disclosed and discussed with the new owner BEFORE selling.

Strange, the situations that made the Walker trigger infamous were not repeatable. Jack Belk traded what he had in place of a soul to slander the trigger.

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IIRC the "incendiary" device used was a model rocket engine and they had to leave the gas cap completely loose on the overfilled tank to spill the fuel... There were millions of these GM "square body" trucks on the road yet when this hit piece was made... I wonder how many folks traded up for a New P.U. after that story? lol...

What problem? You previously stated that the problem was dumbasses playing with guns, so there is no problem to pass along.

Intent and the problem was dumbasses playing with guns, prove me wrong.

Maybe you should try reading what I previously wrote again.
What I wrote was that I thought the cause was LIKELY shooter stupidity/error....that is UNTIL the incident with the guy at a match whose 320 fired while holstered.

BIG difference between what I wrote and what you apparently read.

Thank you for proving my point.

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