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Anyone who has issues with the 243 killing quickly and cleanly need only find a mirror for the explanation.
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Why would you use seconds for hunting? Practice, yes, hunting no! Bullets are the cheapest component of a hunt and just about the most important! You obviously know nothing about Nosler "seconds." They are not rated as "seconds" because they're defective. Instead they have cosmetic blemishes, which are detected by slowly rolling the bullets under a magnifying glass and a powerful light. They come from the same manufacturing of bullets as Nosler "firsts," which have already been tested in ballistic gel for expansion and penetration. I have used a bunch of Nosler Partition seconds over the decades, in various calibers and weight, and almost all the time I cannot see any blemishes with my bare eyes. The only exception was a batch of 200-grain .30 caliber Partitions that had some discoloration--but they still grouped just as accurately as "firsts" of the same caliber and weight, and expanded and penetrated just as well--as have all other Nosler seconds I've used. The ONLY difference is the discount in price. Betting that discoloration is something that didn't clean up in one of the wash processes. At least that's what Sierra told us was the issue with a lot of their "seconds".
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Nice !!!
But why'd you crop out the pretty Lady ????? It’s odd but I agree we see a 1/16 of the face and she’s pretty. I agree, 37 years she has put up with me! Man, that's a lonnnnng spell of continually outkicking your coverage. I gots skillz
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Coyote 10, Have never limited my 6MM's to critters of 250# and under, I have killed more than a few critters that weighed over 500# with a 6MM. Rio7
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Nice !!!
But why'd you crop out the pretty Lady ????? It’s odd but I agree we see a 1/16 of the face and she’s pretty. I agree, 37 years she has put up with me! Man, that's a lonnnnng spell of continually outkicking your coverage. I gots skillz I speak a bit of Portuguese. "Skillz" translates into "the genetalia of a large stallion."
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Anyone who has issues with the 243 killing quickly and cleanly need only find a mirror for the explanation. Agree. I've witnessed the landowner's son pummel big mule deer bucks over the past 6-7 years with it and a 95gr ballistic tip. He know's what he's doing.
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I will readily admit to being skeptical about the .243's abilities for years, then one Christmas Santa delivered one to our family. After watching the success my son had with it I was sold. If it isn't MZ season that's what I'm taking. Every time!
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I agree Rio7 but I've never hunted anything larger than that except a few old mule deer that would go up around 300 pounds. I bet the 243 win would do a good job on an elk with good shot placement of course. I lost count of the deer and coyotes I've killed with one. One year I killed 80 coyotes with a cdl and 75 grain v maxes. But I just grab the 30-06 if I think i may need more horsepower. I do believe a .243 is the most versatile cartridge in the area I live in. And I have tons of experience with the cartridge.
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I will readily admit to being skeptical about the .243's abilities for years, then one Christmas Santa delivered one to our family. After watching the success my son had with it I was sold. If it isn't MZ season that's what I'm taking. Every time! It's good to see some of you oldtimers finally coming around. Makes me feel all the .243 Win posts of mine over the years were not a complete waste of time.
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Hey, Old Man, who you callin old?
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Hey John, I guarantee you that old mulie weighed 300 pounds! Fast twist? Love it.
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Anyone who has issues with the 243 killing quickly and cleanly need only find a mirror for the explanation. Agree. I've witnessed the landowner's son pummel big mule deer bucks over the past 6-7 years with it and a 95gr ballistic tip. He know's what he's doing. I would agree. My son shoots the 95 grain BT, and it is one of the best deer bullets that I have seen for a combination of penetration and overall internal damage. He has shot 3 or 4 really nice mule deer with it, as well as several whitetail. He shot a big mule deer this fall at 306 yds in fairly heavy burnt timber. He shot him at the base of the neck, at an angle. The bullet wen t through the neck, the front part of the chest cavity, and went through the very end of the scapula on the off side shoulder. The big buck never took a step. He tipped over upside down, and wedged against a stump. He made a similar shot on a nice buck last year with the same results. Tikka 243. SS 3x9 scope.
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Nice !!!
But why'd you crop out the pretty Lady ????? It’s odd but I agree we see a 1/16 of the face and she’s pretty. I agree, 37 years she has put up with me! Man, that's a lonnnnng spell of continually outkicking your coverage. That goes for me too, 34 years for us Scott ! Hunting makes Deb happy.
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Nice !!!
But why'd you crop out the pretty Lady ????? It’s odd but I agree we see a 1/16 of the face and she’s pretty. I agree, 37 years she has put up with me! Man, that's a lonnnnng spell of continually outkicking your coverage. That goes for me too, 34 years for us Scott ! That goes doubly for you, my friend. And for me too.
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Hey, I'm not uglier, than that Raeford fella ! Got the same amount of hair, though !
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Yeah, 99's is definitely in the club. When someone tells me that, my response is always the same..... Just the way I planned it"!!!!
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Nice !!!
But why'd you crop out the pretty Lady ????? It’s odd but I agree we see a 1/16 of the face and she’s pretty. I agree, 37 years she has put up with me! Man, that's a lonnnnng spell of continually outkicking your coverage. That goes for me too, 34 years for us Scott ! Hunting makes Deb happy. Love to see the ladies getting it done! Hoping to get my daughter in on the fun next season.
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I got a good blood trail that wasn’t needed on a decent doe this rifle season. I was using the corelokt tipped 95 grain. The shot entered one shoulder and exited behind the other. My wife got her first buck this year with the same round and dropped it so there wasn’t a track job needed.
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My boys have probably killed 20 to 25 whitetail deer with 243 Winchester and 85 grain partition over the last ten or so years. When they first started killing deer with 243 I was amazed at how well it kill and even posted about how impressed I was with the little bullet. The more they use it the less impressed I am with it (deer always run even when one or both shoulders broke, skimpy to nonexistent blood trails, etc).
The only load they’ve ever used on game is Nosler 85 grain partition loaded to right at 3,000 FPS in a Remington model 7 with 18 1/2 inch barrel. Slow the 85 grain bullet down 10% to 2700 fps (maybe 2600 fps). Won't be as rapid expansion of the bullet, and may keep the front section intact.
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Why would you use seconds for hunting? Practice, yes, hunting no! Bullets are the cheapest component of a hunt and just about the most important! You obviously know nothing about Nosler "seconds." They are not rated as "seconds" because they're defective. Instead they have cosmetic blemishes, which are detected by slowly rolling the bullets under a magnifying glass and a powerful light. They come from the same manufacturing of bullets as Nosler "firsts," which have already been tested in ballistic gel for expansion and penetration. I have used a bunch of Nosler Partition seconds over the decades, in various calibers and weight, and almost all the time I cannot see any blemishes with my bare eyes. The only exception was a batch of 200-grain .30 caliber Partitions that had some discoloration--but they still grouped just as accurately as "firsts" of the same caliber and weight, and expanded and penetrated just as well--as have all other Nosler seconds I've used. The ONLY difference is the discount in price. Betting that discoloration is something that didn't clean up in one of the wash processes. At least that's what Sierra told us was the issue with a lot of their "seconds". I stand corrected...
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