Guy called me the other day and wanted on my list I told him it would be well over a year. He said most of the guys he's talked to have a list....but they tell him to come to the Unicoi show and they could buy a call.
I asked him if they had such a call list how can you go to a show and buy a call ?.....his reply was "I thought that was kinda strange"
Guy called me the other day and wanted on my list I told him it would be well over a year. He said most of the guys he's talked to have a list....but they tell him to come to the Unicoi show and they could buy a call.
I asked him if they had such a call list how can you go to a show and buy a call ?.....his reply was "I thought that was kinda strange"
Yeah some guys are really bad about that. My turkey call buying days r about over anyway. Ive been on Lamar williams list for 7 years eventhough I could buy one at Unicoi. also, Farmers list for about 14 yrs. Guess if I was an Nwtf honcho I might of had one of his
If you've never seen it, it's definitely worth the look. Very crowded show. But a whole lot of industry names and interesting folks to meet there.
I used to go every year when I was working shows. The Nashville show is a pretty long hoof from here compared to a lot of the other places it used to be held. But the Opryland Hotel venue is pretty impressive. Probably too late now. But a garden room in the Opryland Hotel is a cool experience ANY time. Then add in a few thousand other turkey people calling turkeys from their balconies at 3:00 AM.............
Be sure to find out where you need to go to find the callmaker's competition. They used to have all the entered calls on the main show floor. But, this year they've been moved to another location there somewhere. I'm not exactly sure where.
Actually...........my patterns suck a pair of Royal Slams, and over a two decades of having paid positions in the turkey hunting and choke tube industries because I just mighta known a little bit about it.
Originally Posted by YoderbOy
My street cred, at this point, is none of the phuhking business of a non-contributing troll.
You're the one brAgging about your "paid positions in the turkey hunting and choke tube industry"....
I could call you a paid industry troll but I won't....because I'm a nice guy.
He won't tell I think he's ashamed...
"Paid"..... Im betting paid in peanuts for booth sitting
By the way, Luther............since I'm in a chatty mood this evening...........
I told Poot all about my pro-staff gig within probably 30 minutes of his asking. Asking like a mature adult who DOESN'T act like the child of an unholy union between first cousins.
You'll catch more flies with sugar than you will with salt, little buddy. 😘
But you ain't coming. Kinda makes me sad..........
Had a couple guys tell me you don't come because (other than a fanboy here and a wiener kisser there) NOBODY there can stand you.
I been there twice in the 1990s back when there was an NWTF calling contest there....never got a booth never sold a thing there. I did trade a call to Wayne Hendrix for a knife.
I've had people ask are you going to Unicoi hoping to get a call at the show from me.
When they ask I just tell them "I don't have anything to take to the show and sell without taking calls away from someone on my list....I noticed your name is coming up pretty soon I guess I could take your call" it's always followed up with a immediate "hell no".
Why have a list if it can be circumvented.
It's a small show in a cramped place it's a 30 minute show.. .unless you want to stand around and shoot the bull.
Nope. But I don't know of ANY that says that a glass call can't be conditioned with sand paper. In fact, almost off them include a small piece of the type of sand paper the maker recommends for conditioning.
I don't need to be a call maker to know what you said is dumb and just plain wrong. But you're too hard headed to admit you're wrong.
Watch the video and learn something....that Walnut call with the Ivory was killer.
That was a pretty caller. Heckuva piece of feather crotch.
But, I'm at a loss why ANYONE would pay more then $100 or $150 for that.......or any of the calls you ran........and a striker ??? Wasn't a ONE of them sounded any better than the ones any number of guys make OR the ones I made on a Craftsman drill press.......
Your fit and finish is obviously better than mine. But no better than the masses of actual callmakers (of which I ain't one). But, as far as I know, ain't never been a gobbler died because the call was pretty.
Haven't heard a box on his YouTube page that sounds better than my $30 Quaker Boy all weather. They sure are pretty, though. The checkering in useless places is pretty, too. Just not sure pretty really counts except to someone who just wants a pretty call. For hunting, it's no more useful than taking an Ethan Allen wing back living room chair with you to sit in.
I've conditioned lots of glass calls with sandpaper. You say it can't be done. You're wrong and know it so you try and deflect attention away from your stupid assertion. Just admit you're wrong.
You haven't played one in person you can think what ever you want.
Obviously, I will think whatever I want.
But, I'm just saying......... Unless the audio track of the video is somehow compromised.........the sound of your calls does not stand out above any of the dozens and dozens I've ever played from other makers........including my own. No disrespect to your craftsmanship. Calls are very well done. Strikers are a good bit above average. But, I ain't seeing any justification for the pricetag being 10X what similar sounding calls can be had for.
You haven't played one in person you can think what ever you want.
Obviously, I will think whatever I want.
But, I'm just saying......... Unless the audio track of the video is somehow compromised.........the sound of your calls does not stand out above any of the dozens and dozens I've ever played from other makers........including my own. No disrespect to your craftsmanship. Calls are very well done. Strikers are a good bit above average. But, I ain't seeing any justification for the pricetag being 10X what similar sounding calls can be had for.
Your single shot will do do what your 21 Winchester will do....
You haven't played one in person you can think what ever you want.
Obviously, I will think whatever I want.
But, I'm just saying......... Unless the audio track of the video is somehow compromised.........the sound of your calls does not stand out above any of the dozens and dozens I've ever played from other makers........including my own. No disrespect to your craftsmanship. Calls are very well done. Strikers are a good bit above average. But, I ain't seeing any justification for the pricetag being 10X what similar sounding calls can be had for.
Your single shot will do do what your 21 Winchester will do....
It'll actually do a fair measure more than they will in the turkey woods.
But there's a lot more "apples and oranges" going on between guns with varying qualities of steel, internals and a whole lotta moving parts and friction calls that have 3 or 4 parts.......some glue and finish......and some woodworking effort.
I agree with all the sentiments over at Old Gobbler about LFC. You can't shine a turd.
Kinda interested to hear just HOW being a newbie turkey HUNTER has a SINGLE FREAKIN THING to do with being a craftsman in the woodshop ????
I know a guy who can cut a turn a human heart off....cut it apart......sew it back up again and make it run. But, apparently he can't be a heart surgeon because he's never had a heart attack ???
Glocksucker can't kill a gobbler and he's an X'spurt....
Never claimed to be an expert, Mighty Whitey. I'm here to learn and participate. You're the one that burst onto the scene claiming to know all there is to know about turkeys and turkey hunting.
So, you never answered my question, where can I get some of these?
If you know, tell me the proper technique. Yank 'em and run? Yank 'em and throw them on the ground and then pretend like you just stumbed across it?
If you have more maybe you could sell some at Unicoi. Wear a disquise so you don't get your ass kicked by everyone you've pissed off.
Glocksucker can't kill a gobbler and he's an X'spurt....
Never claimed to be an expert, Mighty Whitey. I'm here to learn and participate. You're the one that burst onto the scene claiming to know all there is to know about turkeys and turkey hunting.
So, you never answered my question, where can I get some of these?
If you know, tell me the proper technique. Yank 'em and run? Yank 'em and throw them on the ground and then pretend like you just stumbed across it?
If you have more maybe you could sell some at Unicoi. Wear a disquise so you don't get your ass kicked by everyone you've pissed off.
It'd be easy to get some around here. Yes, you could tear one down easily but I've also seen them laying on the ground. Many are full of bullet holes. Somebody in town has a couple tacked to the side of their garage in plain sight of the road. Guess nobody cares. Can't figure why anybody'd want them myself. Ain't nothin I'm interested in.
You'd need a call worth it's own weight in dog shyt to put in it. Since you only hunt with your own calls, you'd have to buy someone elses to put in it.
Which is a demonstration of what a dumb phuuk you really are, Luther........
Several of the holsters ARE lined with wool........... BUT...........line a friction call holster with wool and it'll smooth off the roughed-up surface every time you put the call in and take it out. 🙄
I kinda even thought a guy as slow in the head as you would grasp THAT.............seeing as how you're the resident eXspurt and all. Guess I was giving you too much credit.
So who killed deer this season, how many and what were they ? I was sick and in the hospital for 2/3 of the season but knocked down two nice bucks and a doe in six days of hunting. Easily worth more than 100 stupid damn shyt eatin' turkeys. Sheesh.
In my not so humble opinion, anybody that would spend thousands of dollars on a turkey call or hundreds travelling state to state to hunt them has a couple fuggin screws loose. What's that meat come out to per pound ? double sheesh.
I turned down a fork horn on my first day of muzzle loading season. I drew a doe tag for a bucks only WMA but have enough deer meat in the freezer that I haven't bothered with it. May still use it. Still have another week to go.
I turned down a fork horn on my first day of muzzle loading season. I drew a doe tag for a bucks only WMA but have enough deer meat in the freezer that I haven't bothered with it. May still use it. Still have another week to go.
My buddy killed a fork horn this season I bet you wouldn't have passed up. Shot it right off a does back too. Had an 18.5" spread with great big crab claws on the ends of what are undoubtedly 20" plus beams.
I passed on a 200lb 7 point and some smaller 6 and 8 point bucks (CWD is so bad here I'm not looking for meat)....I could tell by looking at his body he was big deer before I saw his rack. I had the rifle on him when he came out 30 yards to my right. I did manage to get picture of him with my cell phone.
Which is a demonstration of what a dumb phuuk you really are, Luther........
Several of the holsters ARE lined with wool........... BUT...........line a friction call holster with wool and it'll smooth off the roughed-up surface every time you put the call in and take it out. 🙄
I kinda even thought a guy as slow in the head as you would grasp THAT.............seeing as how you're the resident eXspurt and all. Guess I was giving you too much credit.
Here ya go YoderbOy.
Here's how you carry a pot call in a lined cOd sack case...one is American Alligator the other is Elephant leather....the sriker case is made from Hippo leather.
The call with the ivory inlay is slate...I put the slate surface next to a piece of green scotch pad...the other call is glass I carry it with surface riding on a piece of sand paper.
Which is a demonstration of what a dumb phuuk you really are, Luther........
Several of the holsters ARE lined with wool........... BUT...........line a friction call holster with wool and it'll smooth off the roughed-up surface every time you put the call in and take it out. 🙄
I kinda even thought a guy as slow in the head as you would grasp THAT.............seeing as how you're the resident eXspurt and all. Guess I was giving you too much credit.
Here ya go YoderbOy.
Here's how you carry a pot call in a lined cOd sack case...one is American Alligator the other is Elephant leather....the sriker case is made from Hippo leather.
The call with the ivory inlay is slate...I put the slate surface next to a piece of green scotch pad...the other call is glass I carry it with surface riding on a piece of sand paper.
Hope that's nOt too fast for you Donnie
I have to ask, just a few post back, you were saying you could not condition a call with sandpaper, what is that square of sandpaper doing in the call case?
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
I turned down a fork horn on my first day of muzzle loading season. I drew a doe tag for a bucks only WMA but have enough deer meat in the freezer that I haven't bothered with it. May still use it. Still have another week to go.
Just curious. Where'd the venison in your freezer come from, leftover from the 2021 season ? I killed six in 2021, two bucks and four does and it's all gone.
I turned down a fork horn on my first day of muzzle loading season. I drew a doe tag for a bucks only WMA but have enough deer meat in the freezer that I haven't bothered with it. May still use it. Still have another week to go.
Just curious. Where'd the venison in your freezer come from, leftover from the 2021 season ? I killed six in 2021, two bucks and four does and it's all gone.
No, it's all from this year. It comes from family that hunts. Mine will be gone by summer but there is always more somewhere in the family I can get.
I've seen does most times I've been out. Our public land has limited anterless days sprinkled in the season. Even on those days I've turned them down. They're just meat and I already have that. Same with a little buck.
I entered several tag drawings before the season started. One of them was a quota turkey hunt on some prime public land, which is the one I wanted. I didn't get it. I ended up with a doe tag on an otherwise bucks-only WMA.
This is the first year in a long time I didn't haul my tree stand into the woods. I may end up selling it. I don't know yet. I did buy a deer cart for this year. Hauling a deer more than a mile out of the woods is a chore. That cart should make it easier. Didn't use it this year. But I may still go out one more time before season ends on January 7.
Our winter turkeyt season opens on January 14 and runs through January 28. I'll be going out for that. Small game is still in season thru the end of February.
Man that all sounds like too much trouble to me. We just buy our licenses and put in for our doe tags for the WMU's we want and then hunt wherever and whenever we want on public land or private {with permission of course} within that WMU. Fortunately there is LOTS of State land around here and I have permission on several tracts of private land scattered across six counties, including my next door neighbors 126 acres and the neighbors 200 acres right across the road. I usually kill 5 or 6 deer a season and that along with the squirrels, rabbits, grouse, turkeys, waterfowl and fish we take throughout the year makes up 90% of the meat we eat.
I have to ask, just a few post back, you were saying you could not condition a call with sandpaper, what is that square of sandpaper doing in the call case?
The sand paper sitting next to the glass surface keeps it ready to play and for touching the surface up should the surface loose its dust.
The green scotch brite keeps the slate surface from getting slick in transport.
Carried like this the calls are ready to play without any conditioning during the hunt.
What I said was a raw polished piece glass can not be conditioned like this glass call is with just a piece of sand paper.
You can not buy one with a little spot scratched up on it and hope to ever get it like this with sand paper.
What'd you kill this year? Anything? When I posted squirrels I killed, you critized that. When I posted a turkey I killed, you critizied that. And you've posted nothing. The deer photo you posted probably aint yours. If we had to live on your honesty, we'd all starve.
I have to ask, just a few post back, you were saying you could not condition a call with sandpaper, what is that square of sandpaper doing in the call case?
The sand paper sitting next to the glass surface keeps it ready to play and for touching the surface up should the surface loose its dust.
The green scotch brite keeps the slate surface from getting slick in transport.
Carried like this the calls are ready to play without any conditioning during the hunt.
What I said was a raw polished piece glass can not be conditioned like this glass call is with just a piece of sand paper.
You can not buy one with a little spot scratched up on it and hope to ever get it like this with sand paper.
That's retarded. You can perfectly condition a glass call from a new slick surface to a properly conditioned surface with just sand paper.
These three glass calls and the aluminum call have all seen only sand paper.
Your advice sucks so bad I'm believing what you actually know about calls would fit in a bee's diqk.
What'd you kill this year? Anything? When I posted squirrels I killed, you critized that. When I posted a turkey I killed, you critizied that. And you've posted nothing. The deer photo you posted probably aint yours. If we had to live on your honesty, we'd all starve.
What ever I said I killed you would call me a liar.
Heres a fact....you posted no spring turkeys....no spring season squirrels and 1 fall season squirrel (and claimed you killed two or three that day).
You shot a hen turkey with buck shot while deer hunting....you really should be ashamed of doing that.
The top left one is a slate call. Congratulations. You ain't quite as dumb as you come across.
I posted no spring turkeys, because I didn't kill one. I did post a video of one I called in and shot at and missed after it got chased into a tree by a deer, both or which were visible in that video. You must remember that - you posted on your Old Masturbator private forum and made fun of it, not remembering I would see it, too. Then you lied about its contents. They you claimed later you never saw a turkey or a deer in it. By the way, that was one more turkey in my video than any video you have on your youtube page.
And despite what you think you are, you are no arbitor over this forum, and no one has any duty to come here and report their day's activities to you. You've overestimated your importance here.
And I should be ashamed of killing a turkey that was in season with buckshot, which is legal, while deer hunting? You bragged about beating a turkey to death with a branch. Jesus, you are the biggest hypocrite on this forum.
And if my opinion is that you're a liar and a thief, maybe it's because it seems you've given evidence of both.
And "killin'" aint all that important to me. Taking an animal's life is no small thing. But you seem to enjoy it. Beating animals to death with sticks. And claiming you love killing turkeys and stepping on their necks while they are flopping around. And killing far in excess of your need. Along with your threats to find me, step on my neck and cut my ear off. Well, I think that speaks volumes about you.
True no one is under any obligation to post a picture of anything they kill.....I have a good reputation in the turkey world as a turkey call maker who does what he says and treats everyone one the same whether you work at Wally World or youre a Millionaire....I also have a rather nasty reputation of coming down hard on a guy when he lies or tries to manipulate me.....I'm as far from a liar or a theif as you'll ever cross paths with.
If I do come back to Powhatan this spring I'll meet you somewhere secluded and we can talk and you can even video it.
All I saw in the turkey video was a scared little man that was figitiing around and scared to death of a turkey and blast his gun up into space....you pulled the video down because you know I'm right about it.
Post it back up and take it like a man I was being nice with you before.
You've changed your stories so much, I suspect everyone thinks you're a liar. You have zero respect across the hunting internet. You've squandered any credibility you may have ever had. How many forums have you been banned from? Tell us.
As far as being nice, you haven't got a clue as to how to do that. Your honor is shot here and across the internet. No one respects you. The only support you have are some cronies who think they want to stay on your list.
How does it feel? You've insulted every other call maker out there. Your insecurity is so apparent, only a fool would deny it.
You've made nothing but enemies since you've learned how to punch keys on your kEybOarD. You've insulted Shaman, Shrapnel. You've stalked Yoder. You've insulted BSAHunter, and Paul Bernard. You started trouble with Big Stick. You went into someones classified ad and ruined it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
So how does it feel, Luther? How does it feel to have zero respect as a person? Nobody like you. You're the biggest phoney on this forum. You should sew a big P on you shirts.
True no one is under any obligation to post a picture of anything they kill.....I have a good reputation in the turkey world as a turkey call maker who does what he says and treats everyone one the same whether you work at Wally World or youre a Millionaire....I also have a rather nasty reputation of coming down hard on a guy when he lies or tries to manipulate me.....I'm as far from a liar or a theif as you'll ever cross paths with.
If I do come back to Powhatan this spring I'll meet you somewhere secluded and we can talk and you can even video it.
All I saw in the turkey video was a scared little man that was figitiing around and scared to death of a turkey and blast his gun up into space....you pulled the video down because you know I'm right about it.
Post it back up and take it like a man I was being nice with you before.
I'm as far from a liar or a theif as you'll ever cross paths with.
If I do come back to Powhatan this spring I'll meet you somewhere secluded and we can talk.
Everyone knows you're a liAr and a phuggin retArd. You won't meet any body in person, because you're an old decrepit piece of chit who would get his teeth kicked in. You're like a bad guard dog, all bark and no bite.
Better get off the forums and get back in the shop to make some more of your goose squawk boxes to sell to some other phuggin retards for $2500.
Soon enough you'll be dead and gone and everyone will have forgot about your dumbAss.
It's okay, LFC. To be fair, here's a picture of me holding something as old as you. [And better looking.] Maybe my turtle can give you some beauty tips.
I'm as far from a liar or a theif as you'll ever cross paths with.
If I do come back to Powhatan this spring I'll meet you somewhere secluded and we can talk.
Everyone knows you're a liAr and a phuggin retArd. You won't meet any body in person, because you're an old decrepit piece of chit who would get his teeth kicked in. You're like a bad guard dog, all bark and no bite.
Better get off the forums and get back in the shop to make some more of your goose squawk boxes to sell to some other phuggin retards for $2500.
Soon enough you'll be dead and gone and everyone will have forgot about your dumbAss.
It's okay, LFC. To be fair, here's a picture of me holding something as old as you. [And better looking.] Maybe my turtle can give you some beauty tips.
What a retard not much doubt you found it crossing the road.....
Post that turkey hunting video you're so proud of Road kill....
Naw he's probably a jealous callmaker that can't sell his junk calls or one of the guys I've cut off because I caught them getting calls and turning around and doubling their money on them.
Who ever it is he's hiding his identity...he's not man enough to tell who he is.
CFL....what do we have here another jealous call maker or a guy caught profiteering off my calls ?
Guess we'll leave you wondering which Bass'turd I could be. I don't think you even turkey hunt anymore, it'd be awfully tough hobbling your old fat ass up those Tennessee ridges, let alone hobbling across your shop after a bottle of booze to film to stupid phuggin video about being "The Meanest Turkey Call Maker Alive". Should rename your video, "Dumbest Goose and Predator Call Maker Alive" Your boxes sound like a dying goose, and your pots sound like piss poor predator calls. Your trumpets aren't bad, but I guess copying Turpin's design got that much for you.
Besides, who would be jealous of an old decrepit liar and thief? Go blast heroin between your toes with the other homeless Joes in Memphis, you'll fit in perfect with that crowd.
CFL....what do we have here another jealous call maker or a guy caught profiteering off my calls ?
Guess we'll leave you wondering which Bass'turd I could be. I don't think you even turkey hunt anymore, it'd be awfully tough hobbling your old fat ass up those Tennessee ridges, let alone hobbling across your shop after a bottle of booze to film to stupid phuggin video about being "The Meanest Turkey Call Maker Alive". Should rename your video, "Dumbest Goose and Predator Call Maker Alive" Your boxes sound like a dying goose, and your pots sound like piss poor predator calls. Your trumpets aren't bad, but I guess copying Turpin's design got that much for you.
It's okay, LFC. To be fair, here's a picture of me holding something as old as you. [And better looking.] Maybe my turtle can give you some beauty tips.
What a retard not much doubt you found it crossing the road.....
Post that turkey hunting video you're so proud of Road kill....
You're jealous. And you have good reason to be. My turtle has aged much better than you.
I've also been accused of being a liar and fake on these forums because I don't post pictures. I really just DGAF what a bunch of people I don't know and don't ever care to know want to think nor does it really matter if they think I'm telling the truth. I'm a private person and am pretty careful what I post on the net for several reasons. Not the least of which I don't want people showing up here to steal my shyt. I already had my identity stolen once, I have no idea how or by whom, all I know is they somehow got ahold of my debit card number and emptied 11,000 dollars from my checking account. Suffice to say, I have no reason to lie to a bunch of people who will never know me and from whom I seek nothing.
You guys motivate me so much I've been working on one of those high dollar box calls all day...
It isn't us that has mOtivated you, it's Mamie cutting you off from your bOoze bUdget. Sell a box call and you can get phugged up for at least a few weeks. Surprised your liver hasn't kicked the bUcket yet. You better get checked out though, because early stages of failure is cOnfusion, and if those goose calls you've been tuning you think sound like a turkey you might be in deeper than we sUspect.
How many animals have you beaten to death with a stick, LFC? Just the one?
Hey, what kind of "ivory" is that you're sticking in those calls of yours? I recall you saying it was elephant ivory?
I clubbed a bunch of critters to death when I ran a trap line. Have finished off deer by smacking them behind the ears with an old fence post and a coconut sized rock and cut ones throat with a knife. Killed beef cows on the farm by smacking them in the head with a sledge hammer before cutting their throats.
His calls are nice. I give him credit for that. He uses exotic woods and makes pretty calls. He doesn't make many. And there is a narrow segment of hard core call collectors out there that will pay high prices for a call with his name on it. It's the same with any type of collector. Stamps, coins, art work. There is always someone willing to pay for something most other people thinks is rather mundane.
On the other hand, I've never seen anything innovative in his calls. And not just his. Most trumpet, pots and box calls are all pretty much the same. It's the asthetics, the fact that someone hand crafted it, and the rarity that makes it desirable to some hard core collectors.
You can't sound more like a turkey than a turkey. I've never heard a high dollar turkey call that sounds more like a turkey then a turkey. A $35 Quaker Boy box call sounds as good as most box custom calls costing hundreds. Utilitarian is all you need. But if someone wants to pay extra dollars for asthetics, more power to them.
It would be intersting to know why he bad mouths so many other custom call makers.
Everyone just catching their breath?! Maybe having some breakfast to replenish their energy?! Lol!
Years ago, I went to a Turkey Hunting Expo. Supposed to be all kinds of people from the industry there. A classifieds area, outfitter's area, some workshops with open discussion... looked great on paper. I understand the commercial side of hunting, don't like what it's become, but I get it. There were a couple works shops I went to and wondered if the people speaking believed what they were spewing, some really far out there stuff and all connected with a sales pitch for something. One person was so bad, in my opinion, I stood up and asked them if anyone else, besides themself, called them an expert! I also know, that one expo in NE IL was not a complete representation of the turkey industry, but it sure spoiled my appetite to ever try one again. Everyone has their own take, and opinion, on shows or expos, but they're just like everything else in life, be careful where you get your information. Maybe someday I'll try another one...
It isn't what happens to you that defines you, it's what you DO about what happens to you that defines you!
Everyone just catching their breath?! Maybe having some breakfast to replenish their energy?! Lol!
Years ago, I went to a Turkey Hunting Expo. Supposed to be all kinds of people from the industry there. A classifieds area, outfitter's area, some workshops with open discussion... looked great on paper. I understand the commercial side of hunting, don't like what it's become, but I get it. There were a couple works shops I went to and wondered if the people speaking believed what they were spewing, some really far out there stuff and all connected with a sales pitch for something. One person was so bad, in my opinion, I stood up and asked them if anyone else, besides themself, called them an expert! I also know, that one expo in NE IL was not a complete representation of the turkey industry, but it sure spoiled my appetite to ever try one again. Everyone has their own take, and opinion, on shows or expos, but they're just like everything else in life, be careful where you get your information. Maybe someday I'll try another one...
Lotta insight to what you say. Yep.
The big-time staffers have a line to tow. Their sponsors are their paycheck. They say what they're told to..........no matter HOW dumb it is.
Unicoi, from my understanding, is not all that. This isn't Quaker Boy, Primos and Hunter Specialties selling calls.............and deer lure and facemasks. This is custom call craftsmen. Selling calls. And, as I also gather, a whole lot of socializing and telling turkey huntin' lies around a fireplace in the evening.
I've been busy telling a creepy, self important, fake ass, retarded lookin fat bitch scumload on another forum how much I think of them and their bullshyt.
On the other hand, I've never seen anything innovative in his calls. And not just his. Most trumpet, pots and box calls are all pretty much the same. It's the asthetics, the fact that someone hand crafted it, and the rarity that makes it desirable to some hard core collectors.
If you don’t think his calls were innovative you just weren’t into Turkey calls long enough ago to speak on the subject.
That’s like saying Glock wasn’t innovated because a lot of other gun companies are making plastic guns now.
You guys let him get under your skin that’s on you but in the early days of Turkey forums his trumpets were on a very short list of desired calls.
What's innovative about them? He didnt invent the trumpet. His appears to be copies of Turpins.
And anyone that purposefully acts to get under someone's skin is called an azzhole. It's not okay.
The guys always been cordial and helpful with me in the half a dozen or so phone calls I’ve had with him over the last 15 years. There’s a bunch of drama queens in here if you guys want to argue over who’s the queen b that’s on you.
But don’t be so obtuse to ignore his call making abilities you just look retarded. The guy made a fully functional ivory box and you can’t think of what he did that was innovative.
No one is ignoring hs call making skills. It's a skill lots of call makers have. But blinging up someone's design isn't innovative. I've seen.lots of box and slate calls made out of different hings. In the end, they're box calls and slates.
And anyone that purposefully acts to get under someone's skin is called an azzhole. It's not okay.
That'd be 98% of the guys on the campfire. Not so much on this particular forum but many/most of the others. Sheeit, most of them I couldn't sit around a campfire with for 5 minutes without it coming to bloodshed if they talked the way they do here.
And anyone that purposefully acts to get under someone's skin is called an azzhole. It's not okay.
That'd be 98% of the guys on the campfire. Not so much on this particular forum but many/most of the others. Sheeit, most of them I couldn't sit around a campfire with for 5 minutes without it coming to bloodshed if they talked the way they do here.
In my opinion there is a very fine, if not blurry, line between the terms innovative and gimmick in the call making world within the fairly recent past. As a result the term innovative isn’t the first characteristic that comes to my mind when trying to distinguish what sets one call maker apart from another. There is a lot more to it than just selling blinged up calls. A lot of call makers are skilled enough to make very nice looking or blinged up calls that don’t sound worth a damn. A subset of call makers have proven themselves to be skilled enough to make classic, nice looking calls that consistently sound great as well. I think Frank falls within that latter subset of call makers. For what it’s worth I also don’t consider people that own Frank’s calls to be phuggin retards as CFL claims.
And anyone that purposefully acts to get under someone's skin is called an azzhole. It's not okay.
That'd be 98% of the guys on the campfire. Not so much on this particular forum but many/most of the others. Sheeit, most of them I couldn't sit around a campfire with for 5 minutes without it coming to bloodshed if they talked the way they do here.
You would do fugging nothing you geriatric twat.
And right on que here's a perfectly useless example. Lotta semi human pieces of shyt here. Many of them hide behind a sock puppet.
In my opinion there is a ..... For what it’s worth I also don’t consider people that own Frank’s calls to be phuggin retards as CFL claims.
Opinions are like azzhOles, everyone has one, and yOurs fuggin stinks.
Only mentally handicapped individuals would pay $2500 for a piece of chit goose squawk box. His trumpets are very good, but as mentioned by many it is just a copied design and in no way innOvative. He thinks everyone copied him, when in reality he's just an old schOol fraUd.
CFL do you know for a fact the internals of Frank’s calls and a Turpin are the same to be able say it’s a copied design or are you just running your mouth out of ignorance? Say what you want about the box calls. I wouldn’t sell mine for $2500 which it would be quite easy to do. I don’t have any problems calling up turkeys with mine so maybe you should stick to goose hunting. Speaking of innovative, CFL or is that LFC intentionally spelled backwards just to come on here and talk shiitt isn’t as innovative or clever as you apparently think.
CFL do you know for a fact the internals of Frank’s calls and a Turpin are the same to be able say it’s a copied design or are you just running your mouth out of ignorance? Say what you want about the box calls. I wouldn’t sell mine for $2500 which it would be quite easy to do. I don’t have any problems calling up turkeys with mine so maybe you should stick to goose hunting. Speaking of innovative, CFL or is that LFC intentionally spelled backwards just to come on here and talk shiitt isn’t as innovative or clever as you apparently think.
I never claimed to be innOvative, it's obvious the point of the name and you had to spell it out for yOurself like it was a dig, you might be a bigger fuggin loser than Frank is. I guess if he convinced you to buy one of those bOx calls he's got more brains than you and that ain't saying much either. Good luck suggin each other off, maybe if you be a good bOy he'll throw in a free $175 striker next time you buy a $1200 pot call.
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