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Originally Posted by beretzs
This thread is horseshit. Calling our younger generation anything less capable of what we are is silly. There’s a lot of good young folks out there.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!!

I keep reading "in their pack" and laugh.

I never knew anyone who carried a pack full of all the toys we now need for a big game hunt or even any pack at all. Sheister, comparing old guys who are now physically compromised to young lions is sheer foolishness...stupid.

It's amazing that we filled our tags every year without thou$ands of dollars of "necessary" gear in an expensive pack, weighing us down.

I can't believe how poorly today's younger hunters shoot. They suck at the tit of hi-cap semi-autos and practiced spray-n-pray as kids. I guess they need all the toys, come to think of it.

What, you never emjoyed pulling the trigger on a Class III, or even dumping a couple mags through a semi-auto AK 47 when they were cheap and so was the ammo.

Enjoying time with toys, does not preclude a one shot, one kill philosophy when meat is in the crosshairs

It sure does, when that's how they learn to shoot, and too many have.

I was already an adult when the sprayguns showed up and became popular, and I never thought littering the ground with spent steel cases was a hoot. For those who do, have at it and have fun. It's your right and privilege as an American. I do enjoy a double or triple tap, gotta admit. grin


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Most people today, even hunters are more urban/suburban than they were even forty years ago. That means less opportunity. A kid running around the neighborhood with a BB gun means some Karen is calling the cops. That means less shooting. Forget .22s.

Far more deer and the like today than there used to be and much more generous seasons. That means instead of out roaming the woods for squirrels and rabbits, people are sitting in deer stands in September and October. Less shooting.

I was in my twenties before I ever saw an actual range, but by that time I had killed countless small animals. Not many deer…we didn’t have many then.

Anyway, like practically every other activity for todays suburban kids, shooting is a lot more structured than it used to be. That means for most kids it is less frequent and more expensive. Kids my age kind of figured it out on our own and tried ridiculous shots. Whether it was trying to hit a sycamore ball out of the top of a tree offhand or trying to pop a squirrel in the head with a .22 from 150 yards it’s stuff a lot of kids just don’t get the opportunity to do these days.

It’s just the way the world is changing. You know I played a lot of baseball when I was a kid, but nowadays a kid in travel baseball plays more baseball games in a season than I played my entire life and as a result is a lot more polished player than I ever was.

In some things kids have lot more practice than we did as kids and in some others I think they have less. Shooting is one of those things in which I think lots of kids have less opportunities than rural kids did forty years or so did.

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Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by beretzs
This thread is horseshit. Calling our younger generation anything less capable of what we are is silly. There’s a lot of good young folks out there.


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Correct. Reeks of boomer Fudd lore...

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Well said, JoeBob.

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It is no difference than a cell phone. just google it ( no need to know it or remember it ) ! I have taken a lot of chit for being old school , but ya know what, I can do math in my head , judge distance fairly close , and if I can take something apart I can fix it ! I have raised three kids ( 1 of them not our kid , but he was raised here ) and a son inlaw to do the same ! we take pride in running shots , fixin our own chit , and not beholdin to anyone for anything ! we grow most of what we eat and put it in the freezer ourselves. to me it is sad to see todays young people do the things they do , but we have how many generations of completely spoiled youngins ! as a whole the whole damn country will pay in the long run.


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Bi/tri/mono - pods are not necessary when you can rely on the reverse kneel
Works for you when you are sucking your boy friends cock.Beaver told me.

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Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
ability are so lousy today that all hunters have to tote a tripod with vise to support the rifle!! Nothing like having commercialism to kill the ability to learn effective field shooting procedure by employing one more gimmick!!

I keep reading "in their pack" and laugh.

I never knew anyone who carried a pack full of all the toys we now need for a big game hunt or even any pack at all. Sheister, comparing old guys who are now physically compromised to young lions is sheer foolishness...stupid.

It's amazing that we filled our tags every year without thou$ands of dollars of "necessary" gear in an expensive pack, weighing us down.

I can't believe how poorly today's younger hunters shoot. They suck at the tit of hi-cap semi-autos and practiced spray-n-pray as kids. I guess they need all the toys, come to think of it.

What, you never emjoyed pulling the trigger on a Class III, or even dumping a couple mags through a semi-auto AK 47 when they were cheap and so was the ammo.

Enjoying time with toys, does not preclude a one shot, one kill philosophy when meat is in the crosshairs

It sure does, when that's how they learn to shoot, and too many have.

I was already an adult when the sprayguns showed up and became popular, and I never thought littering the ground with spent steel cases was a hoot. For those who do, have at it and have fun. It's your right and privilege as an American. I do enjoy a double or triple tap, gotta admit. grin

Then I guess we had better explain to every military sniper.

"Keep your fugging paws of the M14, and the M16, and whatever else they are using for a squad automatic weapon these days. Those damned things will destroy your abilities."

Bullschitt! Anything which makes it fun for kids to shoot is a great thing. If they don't learn to love the sport, they will certainly never care to become proficient.

I have NEVER had any use for autoloading rifles, nor rimfire handguns. Until the grand kids got big enough to start shooting. (5 yrs old)

Now there is a 10-22, a couple 22 lr autopistols, and a couple revolvers. All to make shooting fun for the kids. They will learn precision later, and that will be self driven. Or maybe it will not happen at all. All Grandpa can do is lead em to water, and sweeten the drink a little. Can't force it down their throat.


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Bring back field shooting competitions, something like Kenyathlon with big bucks for winning/placing, set up the rules where skill over-rides equipment and shooting skills will be cool again. Run the course in tougher terrain covering distance with time stress and competitors will cut the equipment wt. down considerably, but of course this would entail "gun culture"/"conservative" types to get in shape and train like an athlete. With enough money backing it IMO it would fly, just have to put down the Whiteclaw and buffalo wings and train.


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as a whole painted with the broad brush the millennial generation is kind of some useless [bleep]... of course there are a great many exceptions that are great people.
as far as shooting sticks go well you owe it to animals for quick humane kills if that's what helps somebody I guess that's okay..
great marksmanship and long range off hand skills should be done in competitive circles.. which are getting much smaller for a number of reasons and also the youth are not that interested as a whole
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You know folks, it ain't like spray and pray is a new concept.

It was known as the Pennsylvania machine gun for a reason.

Dad bought his Rem 760 in 30-06 60 years ago. He had a Bushnell "with command post" mounted to help get off those fast shots. He was known to go through 40 to 60 rounds in a day hunting big game. It might take two or three mags, but he would eventually walk rounds onto the target. That is why he carried four mags in his pockets besides the one in the rifle.

It did not matter how much ammo got burned, as long as the freezer got filled. "If lead ain't flyin', ain't nothing dyin'."

When I came of age, I figured there was a better way of doing things. Dad never could get over that I used a single shot Ruger #1 as an elk rifle.


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My son has spent way to much time playing video games his whole life. Most of them are shooting at people. He can flat shoot a rifle. I bought him an early 80s 700 BDL 30-06 when he wanted a rifle Left handed. He downs every thing he shoots at. The rifle is a shooter with my loads I worked up for it. He is a millenial that Can Shoot.

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Originally Posted by ldholton
as a whole painted with the broad brush the millennial generation is kind of some useless [bleep]... of course there are a great many exceptions that are great people.
as far as shooting sticks go well you owe it to animals for quick humane kills if that's what helps somebody I guess that's okay..
great marksmanship and long range off hand skills should be done in competitive circles.. which are getting much smaller for a number of reasons and also the youth are not that interested as a whole
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I know for a fact. I need to find a rest, or prone, or something. I shot DCM for a year, and know exactly what my abilities are shooting offhand. There is absolutely no way I could ethically shoot at big game offhand at 300 to 400 yds. I have only witnessed a couple men I would encourage to do so.

That is the range at which well over 50% of our shots present.

Yes, I have killed a few deer, varmints, and gophers offhand. Hell, I got a fox with a revolver a couple years ago. But that is far from typical in our terrain.

Yes, I owe it to the game to use every accurizing device I can when hunting. That is ethical!


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Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by beretzs
This thread is horseshit. Calling our younger generation anything less capable of what we are is silly. There’s a lot of good young folks out there.


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Whole bunch of millenials shooting PRS and cleaning movers at 600yds.

That was not even a possible thing early in my shooting.

Boomers gotta Boom, even though I am really close to Boomer. grin


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by beretzs
This thread is horseshit. Calling our younger generation anything less capable of what we are is silly. There’s a lot of good young folks out there.


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Correct. Reeks of boomer Fudd lore...


Obsess much with generalizations, do you? you know kinda like the OP...


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by beretzs
This thread is horseshit. Calling our younger generation anything less capable of what we are is silly. There’s a lot of good young folks out there.


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Correct. Reeks of boomer Fudd lore...


Obsess much with generalizations, do you? you know kinda like the OP...

Ya that was kinda the point...thanks for being cpt obvious.

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Well, two post in a row with that boomer bs was kinda my point.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Well, two post in a row with that boomer bs was kinda my point.

Yes in a retarded thread based on idiotic generalizations, I figured what's good for the goose is good for the gander....

Got to love when an idiot would look down on people using tools to increase their capability to ensure a quick humane kill.


If you're carrying a tripod for a spotting scope, why not use it for shooting off too? I usually prefer items that have multiple uses, but I guess thats "wrong thinking" per the bifocal crowd...

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On that we can certainly agree.


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
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Well, two post in a row with that boomer bs was kinda my point.

Yes in a retarded thread based on idiotic generalizations, I figured what's good for the goose is good for the gander....

Got to love when an idiot would look down on people using tools to increase their capability to ensure a quick humane kill.


If you're carrying a tripod for a spotting scope, why not use it for shooting off too? I usually prefer items that have multiple uses, but I guess thats "wrong thinking" per the bifocal crowd...
No, only a few rare, but vocal, exceptions within that crowd.


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