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[quote=SKane]Per Jim Harmer / Backfire LLC (as of June 2022) Where did he get these numbers? I tried to provide the link but it kept coming up as a youtube link. Anyway, if you search the guy and bolt action popularity, it'll come up. He cited an industry source that shall remain nameless. He has some other interesting data concerning ammo sold too.
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Several times in the 2 yrs of covid panic I saw 7-08 factory ammo shelves and called a buddy, both times American Whitetail hunter mid to high 20's a box yesterday I noted that both fleet & farm and Scheels both had good stacks of Remington 140 gr Corelokt loads 7-08. It's out there 34.99 to 36.99 per box...mb
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Those who talk about a big βdrop offβ, 7mm to 6.5mm, need to get out more.
DF Agreed. A friend who uses a .25-06 has commented negatively about the recoil of the .270. he doesn't like it, too strong.
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I donβt think so. More of other, newer cartridges rising. Same as always.
If we made a list of the hottest cartridges of the day, by sales volume, we still would have a nice list.
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I can't help but chuckling at how this all started. My final thought: lots of folks are in deer season withdrawals ππ
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I think with all the attention the 6.5 Creed is getting the ammo manufacturers are neglecting the 7mm08. You have to really search to find ammo in stock and if you are a reloader brass is just as scarce. Out of stock everywhere.
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I can't help but chuckling at how this all started. My final thought: lots of folks are in deer season withdrawals ππ Yep. Donβt hold it against us. π
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I can't help but chuckling at how this all started. My final thought: lots of folks are in deer season withdrawals ππ Yep. Donβt hold it against us. π Unfortunately I'm right there with you! (Freezer is full, so I really can't complain... and yet I will!)
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My 7mm-08βs are alive and well, but thanks for asking. But, I do reload for them.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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First time in the 7-08 circle. Found the step son one in a kimber hunter, Got brass and bullets. First load out of 3 different seating depths Shot under 3/4", Loaded up 10 more and it just got better. Done. He only shot 1 shot in deer season, he only had 1 tag. He really likes it and I'm happy.
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My 1989 Rem Model 7 FS, Howa Alpine, Remington 700 CDL and Kimber 84M Classic Select 7mm-08s all beg to differ. Each rifle shoots at least .75 MOA or better (while breaking in the said rifles.)
Saying the 7mm-08 is dying is simple mis-information.
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I've done a bunch of killing with a 30-06 and 180gr Partitions/Accubonds 150gr Accubond/150gr TTSX. And a 7mm-08 rem has killed Elk/deer, just as effective. A 140gr Partition in a 7mm-08 rem is "mean as hell". Has done anything my -06's have every done. Never caught a 140gr in a 7mm-08 rem. Or a .260rem or a 6.5 CM. All have killed a couple elk each. I've caught every 150gr Partition in a .277 that ever hit an elk.
Is it dying? Damn you for even asking such a question...
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I've done a bunch of killing with a 30-06 and 180gr Partitions/Accubonds 150gr Accubond/150gr TTSX. And a 7mm-08 rem has killed Elk/deer, just as effective. A 140gr Partition in a 7mm-08 rem is "mean as hell". Has done anything my -06's have every done. Never caught a 140gr in a 7mm-08 rem. Or a .260rem or a 6.5 CM. All have killed a couple elk each. I've caught every 150gr Partition in a .277 that ever hit an elk.
Is it dying? Damn you for even asking such a question... Exactly... The OP is just trying to stir the pot.. Or maybe smoked too much??
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I heard the 270win is dying also. Still waiting for that to happen. Naw - they give you a drug cocktail now. Can live just about forever with HIV. Ha ha.. Bingo right there^^^
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Good posts.
I agree with the Creed having the edge on accuracy with factory ammo.
For the reloader, even then it can be hard to beat Creed factory groups.
My 7-08 is alive and well, sitting in the safe next to a Creed, a Swede and some other really good ones.
I find myself picking up the 7-08 more than the others.
May have to revisit that. Have samplings of Hammer bullets to try. Weβll see how that shakes out.
DF I have a Tikka T3 308win sitting right next to my Tikka T3X 7mm08 and that one sitting right next to the Tikka T3X superlite 6.5 creedmoor. Take a guess which one I grab..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I don't see a lot of 7-08 rifles or factory ammo around here, but I typically buy ammo online, so not a problem. I'm old school, so a 7-08 custom, 257R, 25-06,and 30-06 for me. Foolishly sold a 270 many years ago that I've always regretted. I will say that the urge for a 6cm is getting pretty strong though, lol.
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I drove by the cemetery today and I saw a headstone with 260 REM engraved on it. Oh man, donβt tell me that. My .260 sees the range a lot more than my 6.5 CM. I bought it as a gift to myself when I retired 4 year ago from the Air Force. It came out the year I joined the AF and always wanted one, but never got one. I got one with a 1:8 barrel, but itβs a lot pickier than my man bun is.
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I was going to get a 7-08 about 6? years back. I was waiting for the sales guy at sportsmanβs. So I went and Looked at the ammo availability and price on the shelf. The 6.5 creed had at least 4 or 5 times the selection and cheapest 6.5 was $10.99 vs $25 something for the 7-08. Bought the 6.5 and 10 boxes of the S&B for brass and cheap plinking ammo.
Now that I reload it doesnβt matter. But that was one of deciding factors.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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I think with all the attention the 6.5 Creed is getting the ammo manufacturers are neglecting the 7mm08. You have to really search to find ammo in stock and if you are a reloader brass is just as scarce. Out of stock everywhere. I don't have a single piece of brass that actually says "7-08" on it. All of mine started as Lapua 308. 308 brass is usually pretty easy to find.
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My two are alive and well.
When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.
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