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Anyone driving one? Drove the Pro 4-X Crew Cab this week and was pretty impressed.


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No, it's been years since I drove a Nissan truck. I've always preferred the Tacoma by a wide margin.

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How is the turning radius? On the previous generation, it was school bus like. Other than that my Frontier was superior to the Tacoma it replaced in every way that mattered to me. Better price, better fuel economy, more comfortable and quieter.

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I didn't look at them when I bought my taco too closely.

I know 2 people with Nissan trucks and neither was happy with them once they put miles on. So I went to what I knew and liked - Tacoma.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
How is the turning radius? On the previous generation, it was school bus like. Other than that my Frontier was superior to the Tacoma it replaced in every way that mattered to me. Better price, better fuel economy, more comfortable and quieter.
All that might be true, but Nissan trucks are not in the same league reliability wise.

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They have a ways to go before they are close to a Tacoma. I think they could have made the interior larger and the vehicle quieter.

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Agree Nissan is not in the same class with Tacoma

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Before the Renault merger they were very reliable

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How is the turning radius? On the previous generation, it was school bus like. Other than that my Frontier was superior to the Tacoma it replaced in every way that mattered to me. Better price, better fuel economy, more comfortable and quieter.
All that might be true, but Nissan trucks are not in the same league reliability wise.

Interesting that you mention that. My Tacoma went to the shop for a valve spring recall of some sort. Got it back and it pinged like crazy. That's when I got rid of it and got the Frontier.

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I’m curious how the Frontier is inferior to the Tacoma? I bought a new Frontier in 2011 V6 King Cab SV 130K now not one single issue other than regular Maintenance oil brakes etc.

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I'm on my fifth Nissan, and I've had zero issues with mine, none at all. I have driven a couple of Toyota pickups, and found the driving position was more comfortable in the Nissans. Period. I cannot get comfortable in a Tacoma, for whatever reasons, seat height, angles, whatever. I've been driving them since 1977 or thereabouts. Turning radius on the 2004-2022s WAS pretty bad, frankly, and I suspect the new '23s are the same (same chassis, after all), but once you get used to them, they aren't THAT bad, either. Reliability has been excellent for me, again, zero issues beyond regular service.
Locally, the same family owns both the Toyota dealership AND the Nissan dealership across the road, and they have been stellar in taking care of anything that comes up on our vehicles (wife has been driving Toyotas) with no complaints there, either.
Nissan HAS upped their prices, so there's little difference in MSRPs between the Frontier and Tacomas now, so I see any differences as a wash Frankly, when I bought mine, there was about a $5000 difference in price, withOUT any benefits I could see. Since the prices are so similar now, and I like the Toyota sales staff a lot better than the Nissan place, I'll probably buy a Toyota next time, but not a Tacoma, something, anything, else, that's more comfortable. I cannot get comfortable in a Tacoma.


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I’m curious how the Frontier is inferior to the Tacoma? I bought a new Frontier in 2011 V6 King Cab SV 130K now not one single issue other than regular Maintenance oil brakes etc.

The first 130 is easy, it's the next 250k that's hard.


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I’m curious how the Frontier is inferior to the Tacoma? I bought a new Frontier in 2011 V6 King Cab SV 130K now not one single issue other than regular Maintenance oil brakes etc.

There was a recall on the transmission cooler on the pre-2008 model Frontiers with the big V-6s, and it could be pretty bad if you didn't get a new radiator and cooler, but that's the only thing I can think of, there have been no other recalls I can think of, and Nissan fixed that under warranty. There have also been some issues with the sending units in the gas tanks (gas gauge), also fixed under warranty. That's it, at least on the ones I've had (2007 and 2016). The cooler issue was fixed with the 2008s and later vehicles. My '16 has been trouble-free, I'm still driving it every day.


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How is the turning radius? On the previous generation, it was school bus like. Other than that my Frontier was superior to the Tacoma it replaced in every way that mattered to me. Better price, better fuel economy, more comfortable and quieter.
All that might be true, but Nissan trucks are not in the same league reliability wise.


Frontier frames rust out faster than Tacomas?

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Bought my Frontier new in 2013, it now has 124,000 miles on it. Only issue I've had is with the stupid evac canister. Thinking about buying a new one also.


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I have a 2012 Pro-4x that I like a lot. Trouble free so far with only routine maintenance. It’s fast and quiet, gets only fair gas mileage. Does everything I ask it to do. No complaints. Frame hasn’t rusted out yet. 😎

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Drove a couple of Dakota's for 15 years. Put many a hard mile hunting out of them. Wanted to replace the last one with another small truck.

Really wanted to like the new Frontier. Thought it drove better than a Tacoma and power train and seating position was better also. Back seat and overall size seemed small. Price was actually a bit higher than the Toyota.

In the end, I bought a V6 Ram used in quad cab. I just didn't see any advantage price or mpg wise to the small trucks. Will remember my Dakota's fondly but already like the Ram better.

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I bought a new Toyota 4wd in 1987 didn’t even make 100k miles and the frame rusted out. Not a bit of rust on my 2011 Frontier yet.

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Originally Posted by Aviator
I bought a new Toyota 4wd in 1987 didn’t even make 100k miles and the frame rusted out. Not a bit of rust on my 2011 Frontier yet.

Had an 89 - 125k miles in WI before totaled. Zero frame issues
Had a 97 - 187k miles before totaled. Zero frame issues
Have a 22 - 2400 miles, frozen in my driveway today - I've not started it since Tuesday. SERIOUSLY doubt I'll have issue. No frame issues.

Then again - I'll wash mine from time to time.


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Originally Posted by Teal
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I bought a new Toyota 4wd in 1987 didn’t even make 100k miles and the frame rusted out. Not a bit of rust on my 2011 Frontier yet.

Had an 89 - 125k miles in WI before totaled. Zero frame issues
Had a 97 - 187k miles before totaled. Zero frame issues
Have a 22 - 2400 miles, frozen in my driveway today - I've not started it since Tuesday. SERIOUSLY doubt I'll have issue. No frame issues.

Then again - I'll wash mine from time to time.

I think late 1988 is when Toyota fixed the frame issue.. they had a recall on some of the vin numbers from 85-88.

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