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This pic proves nothing except this load was accurate in my rifle. Very slight breeze left to right. Gray duct tape was my target.
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How about 6mm/284 with Nosler 95gr & H4831, mine has killed about 40 Deer an Antelope over the last 20 years.
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Many moons ago I was gearing up to do a 7mm WSSM, which I think would provide similar ballistics on an even shorter action. And then I got married and had kids and paused some off the wall projects. Always loved my original 280, should never have sold it. Don’t love my Kimber 280 AI, but can’t deny the usefulness of a stainless lightweight rifle in a do all caliber. Actually kicks a little on the stiff end for what I like, I’m assuming because it’s so light.
Not sure if I go for a 284 if building something in that power level, but I could definitely see picking one up in the right package and hunting it.
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Many moons ago I was gearing up to do a 7mm WSSM, which I think would provide similar ballistics on an even shorter action. And then I got married and had kids and paused some off the wall projects. Always loved my original 280, should never have sold it. Don’t love my Kimber 280 AI, but can’t deny the usefulness of a stainless lightweight rifle in a do all caliber. Actually kicks a little on the stiff end for what I like, I’m assuming because it’s so light.
Not sure if I go for a 284 if building something in that power level, but I could definitely see picking one up in the right package and hunting it. Rebarrel that bugger to 7x57! Fits beautifully in that action.
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Many moons ago I was gearing up to do a 7mm WSSM, which I think would provide similar ballistics on an even shorter action. And then I got married and had kids and paused some off the wall projects. Always loved my original 280, should never have sold it. Don’t love my Kimber 280 AI, but can’t deny the usefulness of a stainless lightweight rifle in a do all caliber. Actually kicks a little on the stiff end for what I like, I’m assuming because it’s so light.
Not sure if I go for a 284 if building something in that power level, but I could definitely see picking one up in the right package and hunting it. Rebarrel that bugger to 7x57! Fits beautifully in that action. I'd just load the 280AI a little lighter, and have the option of more velocity when wanted.
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Years ago the f class guys started necking down 284 brass to 6.5 because of the high bc bullets available. Now they are necking up 6.5 284 brass to use the heavier high bc 7 mm bullets. Life is just a big circle lol. It’s a shame the 284 never caught on with gp. It’s a great round.
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The 284 needs a relaunch. I'm sorry, but not everything needs to be based on a military cartridge. I do prefer military based ammo though. Lots of good brass. 5.56, 7.62 and 30-30 just cause, 45-70. All good stuff. 22LR was used as a training round too.
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I Winchester were to offer the .284 in one of the versions of the Extreme Weather, I'd be likely to buy one. The 284 needs a relaunch. I'm sorry, but not everything needs to be based on a military cartridge. I do prefer military based ammo though. Lots of good brass. 5.56, 7.62 and 30-30 just cause, 45-70. All good stuff. 22LR was used as a training round too.
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I’ve had/owned: 7mmTCU, 7mm International, 7-08, 7x57mm’s, 284, 280’s, 280AI, & 7mm RM’s. The first two mentioned were for pistol silhouette shooting, (Contender & modified XP-100) but I think they would be fine for deer - depending… From 7mm International (rifle) through 7mm RM should be good up through elk at least, in my opinion, depending… I prefer long action rifles to short action. If I could only have one, it would not be the 7mm TCU, 7mm International or the 284 - due to either brass or power. I’ve shot more game with the 7x57, 280, & 7mm RM. Which one I’d prefer would mainly depend on where I lived & hunted. The 280 AI would be fine too, so far mine has just been a paper shooter. If I were to mainly hunt in the mountains I’d prefer more power/velocity. If I mainly hunted on the prairie with longer shots likely, again more power/velocity. Where I now mostly hunt, it would be a tough choice between the 7x57 Remington 700 and the 280 Remington 700, both work well. I certainly would not need the magnum and I wouldn’t trust the TCU at over 200 yards. I don’t have anything against the 7-08, it’s just the short action I don’t care for.
In my opinion, arguing which cartridge is the best depends on variables. I wouldn’t pick the 30-30 for mountain or prairie hunting and I wouldn’t pick the 300 RUM for the Eastern woods deer hinting.
Further, it’s a fine line between using different cartridges such as 7-08, 7x57, 284, 280, 280AI, & 7mm RM.
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Unfortunately, I keep coming back to this thread. Anyone ever make a short action Montana in .284? I happen to have an extra laying around. An extra Montana you say....Hmmm.
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Going to have my 284 put together within the next month. Was holding out while looking for the right long action to build off of. Well, anyway I loaded up two dummy rounds one was 3.1" and the other was 2.97". I sat them next to each other and thought about what my big deliberation was( I have a nice, lightweight donor action to build off of already) and had a good laugh at myself. Told my smith I would drop off the barrel and donor next week!
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Unfortunately, I keep coming back to this thread. Anyone ever make a short action Montana in .284? I happen to have an extra laying around. An extra Montana you say....Hmmm. I have nib 7-08. Was to be for my daughter, but she's losing interest in hunting.
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I think the Montana would be a poor choice to turn into a 284 which has a larger body diameter than a 308 based ctg. The threaded area of the barrel shank gets pretty thin.
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I think the Montana would be a poor choice to turn into a 284 which has a larger body diameter than a 308 based ctg. The threaded area of the barrel shank gets pretty thin. That's been the most folks thought. However, I am pretty sure a poster here from MT converted one to a X284 variant some time ago. Thinking it was the 6mm version.
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