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Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 HandgunHTR #18000458 01/11/23
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045 R REDVANES OP Campfire Regular
OP REDVANES Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045	Originally Posted by HandgunHTR My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting. I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. Hawkins Hunter DBM & Mags

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Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18000679 01/11/23
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger
SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest	Originally Posted by REDVANES Originally Posted by HandgunHTR My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting. I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. Hawkins Hunter DBM & Mags Yep. Anything that gets built from here on out (strictly hunting stuff for me) gets that setup - no more BDL bottoms. WWP53D

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18000721 01/11/23
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 39,002 Flyover Country Teal Campfire 'Bwana
Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 39,002 Flyover Country	I've only one rifle with an AICS type mag - a 22lr so it's not really important but would a little bit of moleskin on the mag tighten it up - no rattle? Me

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18000812 01/11/23
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,352 Denver 30338 Campfire Outfitter
30338 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,352 Denver	My AICS mags don't rattle in Hawkin Hunter bottom metal. Use them for all manner of hunting.

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 SKane #18001008 01/11/23
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045 R REDVANES OP Campfire Regular
OP REDVANES Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045	Originally Posted by SKane Originally Posted by REDVANES Originally Posted by HandgunHTR My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting. I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. Hawkins Hunter DBM & Mags Yep. Anything that gets built from here on out (strictly hunting stuff for me) gets that setup - no more BDL bottoms. Amen brother... I happen to know a guy that sells them too

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Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18001427 01/11/23
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,818 Tallahassee, Florida 257Bob Campfire Tracker
257Bob Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,818 Tallahassee, Florida	As other have said, Hawkins Hunter is what I used on my last build, really secure magazine latch, takes a good bit of effort to release mag, flat bottom, no big mag in the way. I carry a cheap polymer in my pack for a quick reload if needed but not really necessary. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102437975?pid=912178 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024379340?pid=376361

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 257Bob #18001471 01/11/23
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045 R REDVANES OP Campfire Regular
OP REDVANES Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045	Originally Posted by 257Bob As other have said, Hawkins Hunter is what I used on my last build, really secure magazine latch, takes a good bit of effort to release mag, flat bottom, no big mag in the way. I carry a cheap polymer in my pack for a quick reload if needed but not really necessary. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102437975?pid=912178 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024379340?pid=376361 FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18001503 01/11/23
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,818 Tallahassee, Florida 257Bob Campfire Tracker
257Bob Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,818 Tallahassee, Florida	Good to know, thanks!

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18002434 01/11/23
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,187 Michigan M mibowhunter Campfire Regular
mibowhunter Campfire Regular M Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,187 Michigan	Thanks Ryan ! TB, CWD and Covid-19 , free so far.....

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18002485 01/11/23
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger
SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest	Originally Posted by REDVANES Originally Posted by 257Bob As other have said, Hawkins Hunter is what I used on my last build, really secure magazine latch, takes a good bit of effort to release mag, flat bottom, no big mag in the way. I carry a cheap polymer in my pack for a quick reload if needed but not really necessary. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102437975?pid=912178 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024379340?pid=376361 FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING I can attest that the Midway Nitro Express shipping has nothing on REDVANES. WWP53D

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Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 SKane #18002959 01/11/23
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045 R REDVANES OP Campfire Regular
OP REDVANES Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045	Originally Posted by SKane Originally Posted by REDVANES Originally Posted by 257Bob As other have said, Hawkins Hunter is what I used on my last build, really secure magazine latch, takes a good bit of effort to release mag, flat bottom, no big mag in the way. I carry a cheap polymer in my pack for a quick reload if needed but not really necessary. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102437975?pid=912178 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024379340?pid=376361 FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING I can attest that the Midway Nitro Express shipping has nothing on REDVANES. Haha thanks Buddy

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 GuideGun #18004114 01/12/23
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 639 G Gtscotty Campfire Regular
Gtscotty Campfire Regular G Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 639	Originally Posted by GuideGun Originally Posted by REDVANES Originally Posted by SKane That'd work for me - easy to swap out the bolt knob. And given the price, they're going to get prettier and prettier to folks with each passing day. I'm telling you, when I started looking at them yesterday my first reaction was, "MEH". Then the longer I stared the more I liked You and me both. Although I would like a Mausingfield. I think a lot of the distaste with ARC actions comes from that bolt knob they use, which can easily be changed for $30-40. They are their own style with 10-32 threads, but there are some options out there. The looks grew on me too, I've tried the bolt knob on a mausingfield, and the design works well for running the action fast. The owner of ARC and designer of the action is posting interesting design information in the running thread over on the Hide, I believe he says black versions of the knob would be available for folks who don't like the heat treat straw color. I've been wanting to try the Archimedes action for a while and it looks like this one has most of the features (including the camming bolt handle if you want it) at a great price. The coned breech requirement for smaller cartridges means you can't use any existing prefits, but they seem well aware of the importance of getting some off the shelf options available, are publishing the tenon print and working with some suppliers to get that moving. Last edited by Gtscotty; 01/12/23.

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 Gtscotty #18004871 01/12/23
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045 R REDVANES OP Campfire Regular
OP REDVANES Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 1,045	Originally Posted by Gtscotty Originally Posted by GuideGun Originally Posted by REDVANES Originally Posted by SKane That'd work for me - easy to swap out the bolt knob. And given the price, they're going to get prettier and prettier to folks with each passing day. I'm telling you, when I started looking at them yesterday my first reaction was, "MEH". Then the longer I stared the more I liked You and me both. Although I would like a Mausingfield. I think a lot of the distaste with ARC actions comes from that bolt knob they use, which can easily be changed for $30-40. They are their own style with 10-32 threads, but there are some options out there. The looks grew on me too, I've tried the bolt knob on a mausingfield, and the design works well for running the action fast. The owner of ARC and designer of the action is posting interesting design information in the running thread over on the Hide, I believe he says black versions of the knob would be available for folks who don't like the heat treat straw color. I've been wanting to try the Archimedes action for a while and it looks like this one has most of the features (including the camming bolt handle if you want it) at a great price. The coned breech requirement for smaller cartridges means you can't use any existing prefits, but they seem well aware of the importance of getting some off the shelf options available, are publishing the tenon print and working with some suppliers to get that moving. PVA is working on prefits right now! Just had an instagram post about it

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 HandgunHTR #18005874 01/12/23
Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,159 S SDHNTR Campfire Regular
SDHNTR Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,159	Originally Posted by HandgunHTR My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting. I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. My gripes too!

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18005900 01/12/23
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger
SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest	Hawkins Hunter BM and mag: WWP53D

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18005936 01/12/23
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,352 Denver 30338 Campfire Outfitter
30338 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,352 Denver	Next issue please.

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 prairie_goat #18006233 01/12/23
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... WiFowler Campfire Tracker
WiFowler Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ...	Originally Posted by prairie_goat It's like they said "how could we make the ugliest action possible," and didn't stop designing until finally adding a butt plug bolt handle. I'm curious with Remington 700s becoming available once again and the economy seemingly not on the best footing, if the custom action market will cool off. Was discussing the ARC models earlier today with SKANE as a result of the huge price increases on the Defiance anTi and Tenacity. While the ARC may be fine actions, they are about as hidilous looking as it gets. I'd rather spend my money on a blueprinted Rem 700 than any of the ARC actions. I never thought I'd grow up to be a grumpy old man, but I did, and I'm killin' it.

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18006424 01/12/23
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK AKduck Campfire Tracker
AKduck Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK	It’s as “ugly” as all the other custom actions folks gush over. Only ugly I see is the bolt knob and you can change that out. -gasp- glory be…..they offer nitride without charging more or adding wait time. Yup.

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 AKduck #18006445 01/12/23
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,493 virginia G gene270 Campfire Tracker
gene270 Campfire Tracker G Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,493 virginia	you guys looking to get a action now why dont you look at borden or pierce pierce starts at 995.00 and looks good

Re: ARC Coup De Grace $899 REDVANES #18008841 01/13/23
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,000 Cass Co, MO H Heeler Campfire Regular
Heeler Campfire Regular H Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,000 Cass Co, MO	Originally Posted by REDVANES Originally Posted by 257Bob As other have said, Hawkins Hunter is what I used on my last build, really secure magazine latch, takes a good bit of effort to release mag, flat bottom, no big mag in the way. I carry a cheap polymer in my pack for a quick reload if needed but not really necessary. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102437975?pid=912178 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024379340?pid=376361 FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING I read that long actions have to be modified for the Hawkins Hunter DBM - what exactly does that entail? He went over yonder way

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