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Remington’s new invention for a straight walled case. A 200 yard lever round. Thoughts? Some states recently are allowing this instead of using shotgun slugs. So there is a need in some areas. The best I have gotten with slugs is 100 yards. https://www.remington.com/360buckhammer/media/hammering-with-360buckhammer.html
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Sounds interesting and promising.
But dont think it will get much traction. Remington will hype it for a few years, but in 10 years time they will stop producing ammo for it.
Call me a cynic, but Remington doesnt have the strongest record of standing behind it's proprietary cartridges.
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With Ruger owning them, wonder why the 357 Maximum didn’t make it. I hope to see a .480 Ruger in a lever gun at some point.
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Remington's response to Winchester's .350 Legend?
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Remington's response to Winchester's .350 Legend? Never thought of that, but probably this. I thought the 350 was going to be a dead duck. I was wrong. Many many people in southern Michigan are using it in traditionally shotgun slug areas. All due to the law change
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Remington's response to Winchester's .350 Legend? Except Winchester will actually ensure it sticks around with sufficient rifles and the ammo is already everywhere. Sad, but I wouldn't trust Remington at all on either count.
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Remington's response to Winchester's .350 Legend? Never thought of that, but probably this. I thought the 350 was going to be a dead duck. I was wrong. Many many people in southern Michigan are using it in traditionally shotgun slug areas. All due to the law change As of the first of the year, Illinois has adopted the same.
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I think it's going to have a narrow following, depending on who chambers a gun for it. The 350L has a big head start and most people I know are leery of Remington's long term viability. Time will tell I guess.
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I would buy a new 336 if Marlin chambers it. I’m hunting more and more with levers. I’ve got just about every caliber that readily available. That would be a new one and it’s easy to make cases and bullets are plentiful even if Remington doesn’t support it that well.
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With Ruger owning them, wonder why the 357 Maximum didn’t make it. I hope to see a .480 Ruger in a lever gun at some point. Who or what does Ruger own? They don't own Remington ammo, that's part of Vista who also own Federal.
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Remington will hype it for a few years, but in 10 years time they will stop producing ammo for it. Call me a cynic, but Remington doesnt have the strongest record of standing behind it's proprietary cartridges.
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Remington’s new invention for a straight walled case. A 200 yard lever round. . . Whitetail deer can be killed at 200 yards with the same Marlin 30/30s they've been making for decades, and with regular ammunition. My buddy's dad used a scoped 336 to regularly kill deer way past the mythical 100 yard limit for 30/30 rifles. Most of mine were less than 200, but I've killed a few at 160-170. I don't know where the myth got started that after 100 yards 30/30 rounds take a 90 degree turn into the dirt. Lack of firsthand experience and many "hunting " magazines and videos I guess
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Remington’s new invention for a straight walled case. A 200 yard lever round. . . Whitetail deer can be killed at 200 yards with the same Marlin 30/30s they've been making for decades, and with regular ammunition. My buddy's dad used a scoped 336 to regularly kill deer way past the mythical 100 yard limit for 30/30 rifles. Most of mine were less than 200, but I've killed a few at 160-170. I don't know where the myth got started that after 100 yards 30/30 rounds take a 90 degree turn into the dirt. Lack of firsthand experience and many "hunting " magazines and videos I guess The problem isn't with 30/30 or magazines/videos - it's with states taking issue with bottlenecked cartridges. This is a way around it. To be legal, not provide some real/imaginary improvement over a 30/30. What RIFLE will Remington put this in? Because unless they make their own - why would someone else when the 350 Legen is already on mile 8 of the race?
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Remington's response to Winchester's .350 Legend? Except Winchester will actually ensure it sticks around with sufficient rifles and the ammo is already everywhere. Sad, but I wouldn't trust Remington at all on either count. Yep. Just like they did the 17 WSM LMAO
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Remington’s new invention for a straight walled case. A 200 yard lever round. . . Whitetail deer can be killed at 200 yards with the same Marlin 30/30s they've been making for decades, and with regular ammunition. My buddy's dad used a scoped 336 to regularly kill deer way past the mythical 100 yard limit for 30/30 rifles. Most of mine were less than 200, but I've killed a few at 160-170. I don't know where the myth got started that after 100 yards 30/30 rounds take a 90 degree turn into the dirt. Lack of firsthand experience and many "hunting " magazines and videos I guess The problem isn't with 30/30 or magazines/videos - it's with states taking issue with bottlenecked cartridges. This is a way around it. To be legal, not provide some real/imaginary improvement over a 30/30. What RIFLE will Remington put this in? Because unless they make their own - why would someone else when the 350 Legen is already on mile 8 of the race? Yessir Just putting that in there since the door was open. Lots of people don't realize how effective many of the old "obsolete " rounds can be. 357 and 44 mag rifles will kill deer and porkers just fine, and I'm sure the " new" 360 will as well. They'll have to make it fairly affordable, or they might as well put it in the closet and forget about it .
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I just picked up two new rifles for myself and my boy chambered in 450 bushmaster because we live in Illinois and straight wall cartridges became legal January 1st. We both took a doe each with them this past weekend during our late antlerless season and I was really impressed how the 450 bushmasters knocked em off their feet! If you are going straight wall go 450 bushmaster! It has great knockdown energy.
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Remington's response to Winchester's .350 Legend? Except Winchester will actually ensure it sticks around with sufficient rifles and the ammo is already everywhere. Sad, but I wouldn't trust Remington at all on either count. Yep. Just like they did the 17 WSM LMAO Riiiiiight. Winchester and Remington's recent financial and support situations are comparable... 350L isn't going anywhere. Much as it pains me, lever guns are not making a huge comeback when you can get the straight wall rounds in a bolt gun, re: from Winchester.
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