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Glad the chip wasn't available when I bought my truck. Won't be having it retrofitted.

What they don't mention is it has to wear out your engine quicker because oil takes a second to regain pressure every time you start the engine.....not to mention the starter. The other thing that will wear out an engine quicker is those systems that cut out certain cylinders during driving. You can't have temperature differences like that inside a motor without problems in the long run.

The Talley so far is not in favor of the feature. It appears to me those that are OK with it, don’t seem to realize this is just one more idea forced upon the American citizen for nothing more than control.

Headlights that can’t be turned off
Seat belt chimes
Door lock bells
Key warnings

Then you can start a list on fuel and electronic components that impair you ability to simply start the car and drive it.

DEF diesel exhaust fluid that has been forced upon us for an unnecessary addition of fluid injected into the exhaust that isn’t needed for pollution mitigation that doesn’t exist.

The list is long and totally unnecessary, but one at a time our rights are eroding to nothing.



Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Annoying? Yes. Most annoying? Not hardly.


Electronic in and out of 4 wheel drive.

Push button on and off starter.

Hands free driving.

Damn car beeps at you and lights flash when someone gets within 10 feet of you.

Cruise kicks off when you get within sight of the car in front of you.

Steering wheel vibrates when you’re changing lanes.

Nearly impossible to do all but very minor repairs.

Headlights automatically dim/bright.

DEF

I’ll think of more….


Didn’t read Shrap’s till after I posted, we must be thinking alike on this.

Had a rental BMW 330 for a month down in FL. I thought it was very distracting in stop and go traffic. as others have said, you can push a button and turn it off, but you have to do that every time you start the vehicle. I test drove a Cadillac a few years ago that had that feature, I think the sales guy said it couldn't be turned off. I think that was just a particular year or two where that was the case.

AMEN!!!!^^^^^

That's a good point regarding oil pressure. What about turbo cooling given that so many new vehicles of all sizes and fuel types are getting turbos?

It won't be long before you can't get a new car without it. Maybe it's already here. It's part of car companies trying to meet the Clean Air Act by cutting emissions at stop lights.
I've watched a bunch of videos showing how to disable it in my Toyota Highlander. I've tried them all, usually involving a series of things like pushing the brake, honking the horn, turning the a/c off and on, and reciting the alphabet. None have worked. I still have to push the button on the dash every time I start it.

Need a wiring harness bypass that plugs in the back of the switch. Your favorite search engine will show you the way.

No big deal, I start the Pacifica and push the disable button.

Today's cars have so much hi tech crap on them that it's ridiculous. We recently bought a 2021 Acura RDX (wife's car) and you need an instruction manual in order to operate all the gadgets it contains.

The craziest thing on it is, it's got a system that sends motor noises through the stereo system when you step down on it.

,...artificial motor noises,....no schitt.

She likes the car. But she doesn't use 10% of the gadgetry it has. I never drive it. In my opinion, cars reached their zenith with the 2011 Toyota Camry. That's what I drive.

It's a car. It drives smooth. It has a comfortable interior. It doesn't break down. It gets 30 mpg out on the interstate driving 80.

I've got 4 vehicles,..the RDX, An Acura TL, A good old Ford F-150, and the Camry. I use the truck if I'm doing truck things. Otherwise, I take the 12 year old Camry.

Interesting footnote. I gave $14,500 for the Camry in 2014. It had 26K miles on it. Go to the Carmax page and low milage 2011 Toyota Camrys are bringing $2000 more than I paid for one 9 years ago.

I bought the Pulsar LT for my 2021 GMC. I bought it to turn off the DFM. By doing that, the auto stop start is also disabled. It's not really a program change as much as it is a signal bypass. My truck now runs on all 8 cylinders all of the time. Throttle response was also adjusted. Runs like a different truck. Also, by running on all 8 all of the time, there is no lag when trying to pass on the interstate. If truck was running at reduced cylinders, there was a delay in pulling out of that mode, and then finding the right gears. One of the better investments I've made.


Clyde

New auto technology has simply outpaced old guys. If you have to read the owner's manual should probably stick to the 1985 Astro minivan.

More my style.

Dash of 2021 Acura RDX. The steering wheel is covered with buttons and little rollers for various functions and that's before you even consider the controls on the dash. That little square area in the center of the console is a finger controlled mouse pad to operate the computer.

It would be interesting to know how many people run these cars up the side of a tree because they're fiddling with all the buttons instead of driving the damn car.

I figure we'll be buying a starter sooner rather than later on ours

Our car requires a second battery to run the on/off feature. If that battery is disconnected it doesn't work

but you get a warning message on your display system.

Fixed it

Sure sounds like a starter on ones I have pulled up next to at a light. And the older ones are sounding pretty loose.

Oh shut up. You can't even operate a manual transmission and you want to talk about how to drive.

Fuggin' with buttons isn't driving.

Easy old timer, find yourself an old 3 on the tree that leaks oil.