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Always look at the root cause. If he was not sneaking into the US trespassing. He would still be alive. Hasbeen
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Always look at the root cause. If he was not sneaking into the US trespassing. He would still be alive. Hasbeen Ok. What was it?
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I'd like to hear more about the Border Patrol calling the Sheriff hours earlier of an active shooting and an 'Allen' reporting he may have been shot at... hours before the fatal shooting.
Kent Unlike most here, I know you have been down there. I line distanced with On X hunt, I literally used to camp 1.7 miles from Kelly's house. Camped there 8 times that I remembered. Kent
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Always look at the root cause. If he was not sneaking into the US trespassing. He would still be alive. Hasbeen Ok. What was it? Wrong place at the wrong time. Hasbeen
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I'd like to hear more about the Border Patrol calling the Sheriff hours earlier of an active shooting and an 'Allen' reporting he may have been shot at... hours before the fatal shooting.
Kent Unlike most here, I know you have been down there. I line distanced with On X hunt, I literally used to camp 1.7 miles from Kelly's house. Camped there 8 times that I remembered. Kent There is more to this...
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I'd like to hear more about the Border Patrol calling the Sheriff hours earlier of an active shooting and an 'Allen' reporting he may have been shot at... hours before the fatal shooting.
Kent Unlike most here, I know you have been down there. I line distanced with On X hunt, I literally used to camp 1.7 miles from Kelly's house. Camped there 8 times that I remembered. Kent There is more to this... Exactly where are you located. Hasbeen
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I'd like to hear more about the Border Patrol calling the Sheriff hours earlier of an active shooting and an 'Allen' reporting he may have been shot at... hours before the fatal shooting.
Kent Unlike most here, I know you have been down there. I line distanced with On X hunt, I literally used to camp 1.7 miles from Kelly's house. Camped there 8 times that I remembered. Kent There is more to this... Exactly where are you located. Hasbeen Montana, now.
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Well I have spent a lot of time on Texas border. Hunted a ranch north of San Ygnacio. About 15 miles north of the border. Hunted there 5 years. Spent about 50 days each hunting season there. Plenty of wet traffic. What they didn’t steal they sh T On. Hasbeen
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I'd like to hear more about the Border Patrol calling the Sheriff hours earlier of an active shooting and an 'Allen' reporting he may have been shot at... hours before the fatal shooting.
Kent Unlike most here, I know you have been down there. I line distanced with On X hunt, I literally used to camp 1.7 miles from Kelly's house. Camped there 8 times that I remembered. Kent There is more to this... Exactly where are you located. Hasbeen Montana, now. where before that? I only ask because you seem? to have knowledge of southwest goings on....bob
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nailed it. my time in Arizona included several stints along the border south of tucson.
private and forest service lands. ranchers are in constant alert.
wake up and there are trespassers sleeping or resting in their barns, in their cars or trucks if not locked up, sleeping. staying warm.
leaving water running when the last of the line does not turn off the hose. drains ponds, tanks, and water vats..
taking advantage of food water and shelter whether locked or not.
cutting fences and gates locked or not.
leaving more litter than a rainbow hippy convention.
if you have seen a rape tree, and I have seen two, your heart goes out to the girls and women whose panties and bras decorate the tree like an over decorated christmas tree.
their tears and blood soaked into the ground.. whether seen or not.
sit on a stand or blind or shade, and you will see lines of inbound hopefuls and mules..
piles of brush piled up and do not look or tarry or get your phone out cause you are being watched...
its a land occupied and lost to public acccess..
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I'd like to hear more about the Border Patrol calling the Sheriff hours earlier of an active shooting and an 'Allen' reporting he may have been shot at... hours before the fatal shooting.
Kent Unlike most here, I know you have been down there. I line distanced with On X hunt, I literally used to camp 1.7 miles from Kelly's house. Camped there 8 times that I remembered. Kent There is more to this... Exactly where are you located. Hasbeen Montana, now. where before that? I only ask because you seem? to have knowledge of southwest goings on....bob Tucson.
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Rancher with hogs, problem solved.
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I did a bee removal on a home about 3/4 mile away about 10 months ago.
There likely is more to the story but likely not too dramatic. Likely the rancher is an idiot and made a bad choice. Not positive but likely. I bet he got fed up and just snapped.
His fate will be 100% on local politics. This occurred in Santa Cruz County which may be worse than Pima County.
Sad it comes to this. It's sickening.
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I did a bee removal on a home about 3/4 mile away about 10 months ago.
There likely is more to the story but likely not too dramatic. Likely the rancher is an idiot and made a bad choice. Not positive but likely. I bet he got fed up and just snapped.
His fate will be 100% on local politics. This occurred in Santa Cruz County which may be worse than Pima County.
Sad it comes to this. It's sickening. Aka from reports...the deceased had repeated violations.
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I saw that. Repeated border crossing deportations?
PS - I've had to call BP from illegals in my yard that refused to leave multiple times in last few years....
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I would have told the Sheriff to get off my property and don't come back unless you have a warrant! Did I miss it, did the rancher admit shooting the illegal? That would probably end badly... Can't target shoot on your own property on Arizona? Tell the cops to get a warrant. I'm thinking the rancher admitted to the shooting, he's screwed.
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I saw that. Repeated border crossing deportations?
PS - I've had to call BP from illegals in my yard that refused to leave multiple times in last few years.... No way!
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I saw that. Repeated border crossing deportations?
PS - I've had to call BP from illegals in my yard that refused to leave multiple times in last few years.... No way! Not a good day when your water turns on, there's 5 dudes in your yard sitting on your doorstep, wife is working 10 foot away in the house and you get a call from your neighbor of a big group with a rifle spotted behind your house. Sarcasm if you must or am I simply mistaken...
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I saw that. Repeated border crossing deportations?
PS - I've had to call BP from illegals in my yard that refused to leave multiple times in last few years.... No way! Not a good day when your water turns on, there's 5 dudes in your yard sitting on your doorstep, wife is working 10 foot away in the house and you get a call from your neighbor of a big group with a rifle spotted behind your house. Sarcasm if you must or am I simply mistaken... We have "them" in camp, 36c. Ymmv
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