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They talk about fast charging - 10% to 80% in an hour or so. What they don't say is that when battery reaches that 80%, it reverts to slow charging and 80 to 100% takes as long as going from 10 to 80%. Tesla's are a little different so I don't know if this applies to them. You are hinting at a little secret about the Tesla. If you always charge the battery to 100 percent, it will damage the battery. The sensible Tesla owner charges only to 80 percent. I was with my brother at a Tesla supercharger at a Sheetz gas station on I 40 and our battery was just about out. The Tesla computer showed we had just 10 miles left. It took 35 minutes to get the charge up to 80 percent. On that day it was 85 degrees and we were running A/C, which kills the mileage, we could go just 140 miles. Not a good car for long trip. When charging at home, my brother sets the Tesla computer, so that it charges up to 80 percent, and then the charger shuts off automatically.
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Just get a horse. It's ecofriendly and it'll get you about as far in the same time. If they were truly serious about the environment, they would check out LP gas. It burns hotter and cleaner. Engines last longer. It's cheap and we have plenty of it. When I was growing up in West Texas every farmer had LP gas. They powered their farm implements and the autos as well with it. Instead of the electric charging stations just have LP gas pumps at filling stations. It's not about the environment.
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Gotta laugh at this topic and "Conservatives".
You all sound just like liberals. An issue that has no actual effect on you,
and you go on and on. Never seeking to educate yourselves on the topic,
only seeking statistics that support your position. Most replies show the
utter ignorance of the concept, and how it's intended to be implemented in
real practice.
Hints.
Most miles driven are driven within a Tesla's range.
EVs can be home charged, most can plug into a normal extension cord.
And a 110v charge is adequate for the small batteries to overnight charge.
Home chargers aren't as expensive as is told.
There are adapter outlets that allow you to split off a dryer. Shame on you
I you can't manage that DIY. 30a 220v. Big step up. Couple hundred $$.
Most panels should support a 50a 220v circuit. DIY or several hundred for
an electrochicken, that will support a Tesla if you aren't doing max daily miles.
The residential demand for electricity isn't what it's made out to be.
Load management is a big thing. To some extent, night time charging will
even demand and ease management of production.
Look back 130 years.
Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved
along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse
ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free.
There are real issues.
The materials needed, what to do with old batteries, the various infrastructures
needed. Power demand will eventually exceed capacity, transmission and
generation will need updated.
It will be a long time before a total EV fleet is possible, if ever.
A new tech might eclipse EVs before it even can.
Now here come whiney voiced "But...But...Buts"
Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight.
Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs.
If our money situation was one where we could buy a Tesla for cash, while
maintaining a similar vehicle for trips, and the cost didn't matter at all?
I'd order one today. Because the tech is cool, I'd like to personally experience
the use of it. Gain knowledge I knew was valid, not crap thrown around
by a nitwit who hates on something he KNOWS nothing about. ⬆️ Found the BSer that must own a bunch of TSLA stock. You couldn’t run fast enough to give me a Tesla or any other electric vehicle.
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The only way the EVs can work on a huge scale is if the extremely expensive infrastructure is built to support them. It would take all our money, new power plants, and a decade to come close to that goal. Even if they develop a universal battery pack that can be swapped out at a "filling station", like we do with propane tanks, they still have to be charged. Our country simply doesn't have the capabilities. If even half of the vehicles in America were EVs, we couldn't handle the strain on the electrical grid. Why is nobody in our government talking about this? The only thing I can come up with is , it isn't about the environment as much as it is about the control. We can't handle the strain on the electrical grid now.
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The only way the EVs can work on a huge scale is if the extremely expensive infrastructure is built to support them. It would take all our money, new power plants, and a decade to come close to that goal. Even if they develop a universal battery pack that can be swapped out at a "filling station", like we do with propane tanks, they still have to be charged. Our country simply doesn't have the capabilities. If even half of the vehicles in America were EVs, we couldn't handle the strain on the electrical grid. Why is nobody in our government talking about this? The only thing I can come up with is , it isn't about the environment as much as it is about the control. We can't handle the strain on the electrical grid now. Like his first 2 statements said.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Gotta laugh at this topic and "Conservatives".
You all sound just like liberals. An issue that has no actual effect on you,
and you go on and on. Never seeking to educate yourselves on the topic,
only seeking statistics that support your position. Most replies show the
utter ignorance of the concept, and how it's intended to be implemented in
real practice.
Hints.
Most miles driven are driven within a Tesla's range.
EVs can be home charged, most can plug into a normal extension cord.
And a 110v charge is adequate for the small batteries to overnight charge.
Home chargers aren't as expensive as is told.
There are adapter outlets that allow you to split off a dryer. Shame on you
I you can't manage that DIY. 30a 220v. Big step up. Couple hundred $$.
Most panels should support a 50a 220v circuit. DIY or several hundred for
an electrochicken, that will support a Tesla if you aren't doing max daily miles.
The residential demand for electricity isn't what it's made out to be.
Load management is a big thing. To some extent, night time charging will
even demand and ease management of production.
Look back 130 years.
Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved
along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse
ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free.
There are real issues.
The materials needed, what to do with old batteries, the various infrastructures
needed. Power demand will eventually exceed capacity, transmission and
generation will need updated.
It will be a long time before a total EV fleet is possible, if ever.
A new tech might eclipse EVs before it even can.
Now here come whiney voiced "But...But...Buts"
Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight.
Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs.
If our money situation was one where we could buy a Tesla for cash, while
maintaining a similar vehicle for trips, and the cost didn't matter at all?
I'd order one today. Because the tech is cool, I'd like to personally experience
the use of it. Gain knowledge I knew was valid, not crap thrown around
by a nitwit who hates on something he KNOWS nothing about. ⬆️ Found the BSer that must own a bunch of TSLA stock. You couldn’t run fast enough to give me a Tesla or any other electric vehicle. You know, if you would just educate yourself, you would sound less liberal.
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And you would demand a rebate from tax payers when you purchased the Tesla Gotta laugh at this topic and "Conservatives".
You all sound just like liberals. An issue that has no actual effect on you,
and you go on and on. Never seeking to educate yourselves on the topic,
only seeking statistics that support your position. Most replies show the
utter ignorance of the concept, and how it's intended to be implemented in
real practice.
Hints.
Most miles driven are driven within a Tesla's range.
EVs can be home charged, most can plug into a normal extension cord.
And a 110v charge is adequate for the small batteries to overnight charge.
Home chargers aren't as expensive as is told.
There are adapter outlets that allow you to split off a dryer. Shame on you
I you can't manage that DIY. 30a 220v. Big step up. Couple hundred $$.
Most panels should support a 50a 220v circuit. DIY or several hundred for
an electrochicken, that will support a Tesla if you aren't doing max daily miles.
The residential demand for electricity isn't what it's made out to be.
Load management is a big thing. To some extent, night time charging will
even demand and ease management of production.
Look back 130 years.
Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved
along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse
ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free.
There are real issues.
The materials needed, what to do with old batteries, the various infrastructures
needed. Power demand will eventually exceed capacity, transmission and
generation will need updated.
It will be a long time before a total EV fleet is possible, if ever.
A new tech might eclipse EVs before it even can.
Now here come whiney voiced "But...But...Buts"
Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight.
Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs.
If our money situation was one where we could buy a Tesla for cash, while
maintaining a similar vehicle for trips, and the cost didn't matter at all?
I'd order one today. Because the tech is cool, I'd like to personally experience
the use of it. Gain knowledge I knew was valid, not crap thrown around
by a nitwit who hates on something he KNOWS nothing about............ Look back 130 years. Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free. ...... difference is .back then ,people chose to switch from horses to cars .people chose to open gas stations to handle these cars ....goverment ..democrats are dictating to us and forcing us to go to electric cars wither we want to or not And you wouldn't take a rebate on your Ford?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Even volunteer to pay extra taxes.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Gotta laugh at this topic and "Conservatives".
You all sound just like liberals. An issue that has no actual effect on you,
and you go on and on. Never seeking to educate yourselves on the topic,
only seeking statistics that support your position. Most replies show the
utter ignorance of the concept, and how it's intended to be implemented in
real practice.
Hints.
Most miles driven are driven within a Tesla's range.
EVs can be home charged, most can plug into a normal extension cord.
And a 110v charge is adequate for the small batteries to overnight charge.
Home chargers aren't as expensive as is told.
There are adapter outlets that allow you to split off a dryer. Shame on you
I you can't manage that DIY. 30a 220v. Big step up. Couple hundred $$.
Most panels should support a 50a 220v circuit. DIY or several hundred for
an electrochicken, that will support a Tesla if you aren't doing max daily miles.
The residential demand for electricity isn't what it's made out to be.
Load management is a big thing. To some extent, night time charging will
even demand and ease management of production.
Look back 130 years.
Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved
along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse
ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free.
There are real issues.
The materials needed, what to do with old batteries, the various infrastructures
needed. Power demand will eventually exceed capacity, transmission and
generation will need updated.
It will be a long time before a total EV fleet is possible, if ever.
A new tech might eclipse EVs before it even can.
Now here come whiney voiced "But...But...Buts"
Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight.
Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs.
If our money situation was one where we could buy a Tesla for cash, while
maintaining a similar vehicle for trips, and the cost didn't matter at all?
I'd order one today. Because the tech is cool, I'd like to personally experience
the use of it. Gain knowledge I knew was valid, not crap thrown around
by a nitwit who hates on something he KNOWS nothing about. ⬆️ Found the BSer that must own a bunch of TSLA stock. You couldn’t run fast enough to give me a Tesla or any other electric vehicle. [bleep] you! Learn to read. Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight. Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs. Only interested in the tech, and learning the facts. Facts, not the twisted BS from folks with an agenda. Don't act like ladies gentlemen. If unhappy with the government, be mad at government. The cars aren't the problem, just machines.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I can fill my truck all the way to the top in 5 minutes, then drive 400 miles.
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I can fill my truck all the way to the top in 5 minutes, then drive 400 miles. In minus 5 degree weather like a Tesla with the heater on high? lol
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Gotta laugh at this topic and "Conservatives".
You all sound just like liberals. An issue that has no actual effect on you,
and you go on and on. Never seeking to educate yourselves on the topic,
only seeking statistics that support your position. Most replies show the
utter ignorance of the concept, and how it's intended to be implemented in
real practice.
Hints.
Most miles driven are driven within a Tesla's range.
EVs can be home charged, most can plug into a normal extension cord.
And a 110v charge is adequate for the small batteries to overnight charge.
Home chargers aren't as expensive as is told.
There are adapter outlets that allow you to split off a dryer. Shame on you
I you can't manage that DIY. 30a 220v. Big step up. Couple hundred $$.
Most panels should support a 50a 220v circuit. DIY or several hundred for
an electrochicken, that will support a Tesla if you aren't doing max daily miles.
The residential demand for electricity isn't what it's made out to be.
Load management is a big thing. To some extent, night time charging will
even demand and ease management of production.
Look back 130 years.
Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved
along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse
ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free.
There are real issues.
The materials needed, what to do with old batteries, the various infrastructures
needed. Power demand will eventually exceed capacity, transmission and
generation will need updated.
It will be a long time before a total EV fleet is possible, if ever.
A new tech might eclipse EVs before it even can.
Now here come whiney voiced "But...But...Buts"
Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight.
Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs.
If our money situation was one where we could buy a Tesla for cash, while
maintaining a similar vehicle for trips, and the cost didn't matter at all?
I'd order one today. Because the tech is cool, I'd like to personally experience
the use of it. Gain knowledge I knew was valid, not crap thrown around
by a nitwit who hates on something he KNOWS nothing about. It would be one thing if people were buying EV's because the free-market showed they were a viable or better alternative, but that isn't what's happening: they're being shoved down our throats on the basis of a contrived need to limit fossil fuel consumption. The very fact that gubmint has to subsidize their purchase (witness the Green New Deal) is proof-positive they're not competitive in a fair competition with petrol vehicles. Virtually everything we've been told about the supposed environmental benefits of EVs (and therewith, the evils of fossil fuels) is a complete lie. Virtually everything. If consumers decide EVs are a competitive alternative, "Katy bar the door", but the fact that the gubmint has to subsidize them and lie (or withhold the actual facts) as to their true environmental cost relative to the costs and benefits of fossil fuels is proof positive they're an inferior product. If they were to someday become competitive, great, but I think that's very unlikely to happen. Absent subsidies and lies they would be a niche product only. It's not the free-market that is bringing them to us. The heavy hand of gubmint is forcing them on us. It's going to be a hoot watching Kalifornia backtrack on their ban of gas-powered vehicles.
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Ev's were all the rage in the early 1900's . They figured out that the internal combustion engine was a much better platform. why try to reintroduce something that failed miserably in the past
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Gotta laugh at this topic and "Conservatives".
You all sound just like liberals. An issue that has no actual effect on you,
and you go on and on. Never seeking to educate yourselves on the topic,
only seeking statistics that support your position. Most replies show the
utter ignorance of the concept, and how it's intended to be implemented in
real practice.
Hints.
Most miles driven are driven within a Tesla's range.
EVs can be home charged, most can plug into a normal extension cord.
And a 110v charge is adequate for the small batteries to overnight charge.
Home chargers aren't as expensive as is told.
There are adapter outlets that allow you to split off a dryer. Shame on you
I you can't manage that DIY. 30a 220v. Big step up. Couple hundred $$.
Most panels should support a 50a 220v circuit. DIY or several hundred for
an electrochicken, that will support a Tesla if you aren't doing max daily miles.
The residential demand for electricity isn't what it's made out to be.
Load management is a big thing. To some extent, night time charging will
even demand and ease management of production.
Look back 130 years.
Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved
along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse
ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free.
There are real issues.
The materials needed, what to do with old batteries, the various infrastructures
needed. Power demand will eventually exceed capacity, transmission and
generation will need updated.
It will be a long time before a total EV fleet is possible, if ever.
A new tech might eclipse EVs before it even can.
Now here come whiney voiced "But...But...Buts"
Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight.
Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs.
If our money situation was one where we could buy a Tesla for cash, while
maintaining a similar vehicle for trips, and the cost didn't matter at all?
I'd order one today. Because the tech is cool, I'd like to personally experience
the use of it. Gain knowledge I knew was valid, not crap thrown around
by a nitwit who hates on something he KNOWS nothing about. It would be one thing if people were buying EV's because the free-market showed they were a viable or better alternative, but that isn't what's happening: they're being shoved down our throats on the basis of a contrived need to limit fossil fuel consumption. The very fact that gubmint has to subsidize their purchase (witness the Green New Deal) is proof-positive they're not competitive in a fair competition with petrol vehicles. Virtually everything we've been told about the supposed environmental benefits of EVs (and therewith, the evils of fossil fuels) is a complete lie. Virtually everything. If consumers decide EVs are a competitive alternative, "Katy bar the door", but the fact that the gubmint has to subsidize them and lie (or withhold the actual facts) as to their true environmental cost relative to the costs and benefits of fossil fuels is proof positive they're an inferior product. If they were to someday become competitive, great, but I think that's very unlikely to happen. Absent subsidies and lies they would be a niche product only. It's not the free-market that is bringing them to us. The heavy hand of gubmint is forcing them on us. It's going to be a hoot watching Kalifornia backtrack on their ban of gas-powered vehicles. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy or use them.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Nobody is forcing anybody to buy or use them. Sure they are. FJB is gonna come to your house and take your guns and haul them off in your confiscated gas and diesel vehicles, then he's gonna give all your children the gay. He's gonna leave you with nuttin but a electric Volkswagen that runs on double A batteries that you'll have to charge every 3 blocks. And on top of that all you're gonna have to eat is Tofu for the rest of your life. You gotta keep up with the threads here, don't you know nuttin? You just ain't informed Mr. Ten Gauge.
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Nobody is forcing anybody to buy or use them. Sure they are. FJB is gonna come to your house and take your guns and haul them off in your confiscated gas and diesel vehicles, then he's gonna give all your children the gay. He's gonna leave you with nuttin but a electric Volkswagen that runs on double A batteries that you'll have to charge every 3 blocks. And on top of that all you're gonna have to eat is Tofu for the rest of your life. You gotta keep up with the threads here, don't you know nuttin? You just ain't informed Mr. Ten Gauge. Rather be uninformed than misinformed. That is the exact reason I don't watch or listen to the the news.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Gotta laugh at this topic and "Conservatives".
You all sound just like liberals. An issue that has no actual effect on you,
and you go on and on. Never seeking to educate yourselves on the topic,
only seeking statistics that support your position. Most replies show the
utter ignorance of the concept, and how it's intended to be implemented in
real practice.
Hints.
Most miles driven are driven within a Tesla's range.
EVs can be home charged, most can plug into a normal extension cord.
And a 110v charge is adequate for the small batteries to overnight charge.
Home chargers aren't as expensive as is told.
There are adapter outlets that allow you to split off a dryer. Shame on you
I you can't manage that DIY. 30a 220v. Big step up. Couple hundred $$.
Most panels should support a 50a 220v circuit. DIY or several hundred for
an electrochicken, that will support a Tesla if you aren't doing max daily miles.
The residential demand for electricity isn't what it's made out to be.
Load management is a big thing. To some extent, night time charging will
even demand and ease management of production.
Look back 130 years.
Cars were a toy, horse people hated them. Tons of problems, things moved
along based of the efforts of individuals. Common sense placed a horse
ahead of cars. Reliable, fixed itself, fueled itself for free.
There are real issues.
The materials needed, what to do with old batteries, the various infrastructures
needed. Power demand will eventually exceed capacity, transmission and
generation will need updated.
It will be a long time before a total EV fleet is possible, if ever.
A new tech might eclipse EVs before it even can.
Now here come whiney voiced "But...But...Buts"
Don't own one. Have no dog in the fight.
Could afford one, but don't chose to spend much money on any depreciating asset that also constantly has costs.
If our money situation was one where we could buy a Tesla for cash, while
maintaining a similar vehicle for trips, and the cost didn't matter at all?
I'd order one today. Because the tech is cool, I'd like to personally experience
the use of it. Gain knowledge I knew was valid, not crap thrown around
by a nitwit who hates on something he KNOWS nothing about. It would be one thing if people were buying EV's because the free-market showed they were a viable or better alternative, but that isn't what's happening: they're being shoved down our throats on the basis of a contrived need to limit fossil fuel consumption. The very fact that gubmint has to subsidize their purchase (witness the Green New Deal) is proof-positive they're not competitive in a fair competition with petrol vehicles. Virtually everything we've been told about the supposed environmental benefits of EVs (and therewith, the evils of fossil fuels) is a complete lie. Virtually everything. If consumers decide EVs are a competitive alternative, "Katy bar the door", but the fact that the gubmint has to subsidize them and lie (or withhold the actual facts) as to their true environmental cost relative to the costs and benefits of fossil fuels is proof positive they're an inferior product. If they were to someday become competitive, great, but I think that's very unlikely to happen. Absent subsidies and lies they would be a niche product only. It's not the free-market that is bringing them to us. The heavy hand of gubmint is forcing them on us. It's going to be a hoot watching Kalifornia backtrack on their ban of gas-powered vehicles. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy or use them. except california and other states ,and soon the nation , will not be able to buy new gas powered cars as of 2035 , if that is not banning i dont know what is. oh ford or chevy said they will not produce any more new gas cars after that date
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except california and other states ,and soon the nation , will not be able to buy new gas powered cars as of 2035 , if that is not banning i dont know what is. oh ford or chevy said they will not produce any more new gas cars after that date And not one American has cast a single vote for eliminating gas powered cars.
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As I've suggested before, electric cars will be viable outside the city/commuter environment only when replaceable battery packs are developed. Pull into the equivalent of a gas station and your nearly empty battery is removed, a fully charged one is installed, and you pay for the amount of charge difference between the two. Drive off. No interminable waiting to charge.
At home and around town, you recharge as usual. Where we going to get all this extra electricity... we are short as is.....PPP leads to PPP
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Nobody is forcing anybody to buy or use them. That's simply not true. Legislation is being passed requiring only EVs be sold in the future
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Where we going to get all this extra electricity... we are short as is.....PPP leads to PPP There are all kinds of problems with the leftist plan to replace fossil fuel powered vehicles. These problems are impossible to overcome, and they know it. Another one is the mining that will be necessary to supply all the battery components. Massively polluting process, and even then insufficient to provide all the materials necessary. It's likely that the globalists have no plan to replace all the gas powered vehicles. Instead, their plan is to make powered vehicles scarce, so that only the very wealthy can afford one of their own, and everyone else will ride bicycles or use public transportation. Of course, they're not quite out in the open about these intentions.
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