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I had a thought, is de-fund the police a program to get rid of cops, that for the most part, believe in the Constitution so they can be replaced with Marxists that will obey orders when the time is ripe to disarm us? Consider the damage from what this policy has done there has to be a long term objective in play.

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I say defund the crooks.

Defund and abolish the police.

All they do is brutalize and murder good folks. The individual is responsible for their own safety.

Plenty of stupid to go around.

Move to a country that is like this, then come back in 5 yrs and tell us all how it worked out.

Articles in the news, citizens in the worst cities want the police around. Just today the news talked about Austin and Baltimore and interviewed a lady from Baltimore, needless to say she wants the police there.

If I was a cop in those cities, I’d hang back, no need to rush for the call. I think stupid should hurt.

Judge Dredd would streamline the judicial system

Sort of.

The "defund" agenda and the "stand down" agenda is designed to piss off those that took the Oath and took it seriously, forcing them to quit or retire. Very similar to what Obama did to the US Military.

Once these "Patriots" are gone and crime is totally out of control, "they" will increase the budget, hire new employees, employees that fall in line with their agenda, having an army of Socialists/Marxists patrolling the streets ready, willing and able to violate your rights without batting an eye.

What a stupid thing to say

From the onset of all of those agendas I have seen that as one component of a general onslaught attempted by the cabal that has been trying to undermine our sustaining values and systems. They knew that any such "defunding" would not happen to any significant degree in the overall, but it would generate news and would rile up some idiots - keep the fire burning. Most here know the several other component actions/agendas.

Obviously, there have been some results - police retiring, quitting the job and moving to a more desirable jurisdiction, etc.. However, I do not see those effects in reaction primarily to the threat of the "defunding" demands, but rather due to the overall mess created by the combo of agendas affecting the legal and enforcement situation.

Edited to note that Steve 4102 addressed a key factor earlier.

Defund the Karens that make everything illegal.

Best idea yet or tie them a street light in Chicago at night.

No.

Defunding was a local government response to Liberals of all colors, though primarily BLM supporter’s calling for an adjustment both in police presence and their tactics dealing with blacks…

Their desire was to see massive budgets cut out of police agencies, especially the ‘action teams’ like Gang Enforcement, Vice, and Fast Response Units that worked the inner city black neighborhoods.

The demand was for the massive cut savings of police to be redistributed to social services that would pay that money into ‘cherry picked’ pet organizations that were allegedly going to help improve quality of life for blacks, and reduce overall feelings of police targeting people of color for criminal activity.

It didn’t work…anywhere. Within 6-7 months of defunding the police agencies. These Liberal governments were attempting to claw back the money cut because crime, especially murder and assaults went through the ceiling.

Unfortunately, hundreds if not thousands of the better cops either retired or quit these defunded police agencies and went to work for other smaller departments or Sheriff departments.

Now, most large metro police agencies need to hire new officers, but the reputation of what these local governments did to their police has left a stench in the air and a lot of new, potential recruits aren’t interested in working for these agencies for fear of no government and District Attorneys supporting their police efforts.

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Not the brightest of ideas.

I would argue that it was sold to naive grassroot lefties in the way that Beave laid forth but that the people doing the selling had more sinister plans such as those described by steve4102

There are a few places that need defunding. There are a few places that need some more help.

I like the idea.

How could that be done?

It’s not an either or proposition. The idea that we have to defund the police makes sense if anyone has tried to affect change with their local “law enforcement”. They (police departments) absolutely will NOT entertain any suggestions from the people they serve to better improve their “services”. They vigorously resist any attempts by those that employ them to submit to citizen oversight or increased accountability. They continuously exempt themselves from the laws they endorse and they hold themselves ABOVE the law. The paradigm shift that we’re now dealing with has the cops acting like we work for them and WE have absolutely NO input on their conduct. Big city departments are hotbeds of political activism with activists masquerading as cops while pushing their political agendas while they’re on duty. The faqqots, lesbians, illiterate minorities and recovering lifelong dorks are the bulk of city “cops”. Those losers, by virtue of their job title, are actively “getting even” with white people by unequal and often illegal application of the law.

I’ve been saying for more than 20 years that we need a top to bottom overhaul of the abortion that we call “law enforcement” or “criminal justice”. The us versus them attitude that they’ve perpetuated has backfired on “them”. The reality is that WE don’t NEED them….they NEED us if they want to keep cashing their paychecks.

If those bastards don’t want to listen to the people that employ them and pay their salaries, if those bastards want to keep looking down on us because we don’t have badges to hide our bad behavior behind then I couldn’t care less what happens to them. If they want to run roughshod over us and our Constitutional rights then they are destructive to our domestic tranquility, they are not keeping the PEACE, they no longer SERVE and PROTECT. They’re quite efficient at tazing, handcuffing and pepper spraying parents in a school parking lot while the parents standby helplessly as their children are being murdered. The cops were such cowards in Uvalde that they themselves aided and abetted the murderer through their cowardly inaction against the murderer and their abusive detainment of the parents…..is that the type of dogshit departments that we really need to fund? When they’re really needed they’re too frightened to do anything but God forbid you don’t wear a mask in the Walmart or you attend church when they tell you that you aren’t allowed to go to church. The cops have become less concerned with upholding their oath to the Constitution and more concerned with carrying out the political agenda of anti-American politicians.

So…yeah…if they are not interested in improving then sh.itcan all their asses. The decent ones can be rehired down the road once this bullshit is figured out once and for all!

Ya bastards! All of'em! Kid murderers too!

Oh don't be such a baby.