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I thought this was gonna be a right-wing rebuttal involving an “Indians are Morons” theme.

But, surprisingly well researched and written.

Yepper, once they got the horse the Indians did what ever’body else throughout history did; depleted a readily available resource, killing bunches for their tongues and trading hides by the thousands…..

A good read…..

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/0...and-horses-play-in-the-decline-of-bison/

LOL!!
A Major I " worked" for told me about his Buffalo " Hunt" he did on some Rez land up in Wyoming or Montana.
They had em all fenced in about 35 or 40 of em on like 5 acres of land... Indian wild Buffalo hunt...
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He paid his 3 or 4 k IIRC and waylayed his Buffalo at about 30 yds thru the fence.
Can't remember what rifle he said he used.

But the hunt was portrayed as a wild Buffalo hunt.
Not rounded up fenced in one's like what went down when he arrived..
4 or 5 other customers/ " hunters" their waiting for their shot at a Tatonka also....

He just said fugg it...
Had already paid via credit and throw in all the travel, time, and logistics.

The Indians did have butchering and shipping of the meat, head, and hide options all set up too.






Have seen a few threads on here over the years per Buffalo " hunts" that had fenced in stuff going on in the pics.


Tatonka....


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Wait Wait! Not so fast. Bisons fart right? So are environmentalists and AOC ok with this program? I mean more farting bovines could adversely impact the years remaining till the death of the planet right?

“Indigenous knowledge”?

So much for “trust the science”

Tens of thousands of White people named "Dwight England" and "Suzie Worthington" but who are 'on the rolls' shake their fist and turquoise jewelry at you!!!

The Fed Govs and Indians...

What could go wrong?

You don't want that.

As always, applying “Ocamms Razor” puts things into a little different perspective!
Always look at who stands to gain what and go from there.
7mm

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The ignorance of the fire is on full display in this thread.

"Gianforte has argued that bison conservation undermines the health of rural livestock, and that public lands within the state should only be leased to commercial livestock producers."


Jersey is a moron. Bison are classified livestock in MT. Dumb fugg is the governor and doesn't know this. LOL

Visa or Mastercard...
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yes I do. Eliminate all indian 'ownership' of land, and get rid of any 'sovereign status' crap.

Whoever owns the fence will be then one that will pay. The old western law for the ranchers will apply here, "If you don't want the Bison/cattle on your property then YOU will have to fence them out".

Been out campaigning for your bitch Tester yet callnum?

No, no you don't.



Not unless you want Pine Ridge moving into your back yard.

He thinks that these buffler are commercial.

The Indians and the bison were not compatible with settlement and farming, so they had to go. There was no way agriculture and industrialization was possible with well armed highly mobile nomads stealing and murdering at will. Likewise crops could never have been successful with wild very strong fence breaking cattle roaming at will.

In truth the Indians were treated better than most conquered peoples. And the bison are now believed to have mostly succumbed to Texas Tick Fever or anthrax brought north by the Texas cattle that were immune carriers. No way 60 million cattle could have been shot out. They would have produced 15 million calves a year if only half the females would have produced.

Both the Indians and the bison were mostly decimated by European introduced diseases. The buffalo hunters just finished the job on the remaining herd. Those huge piles of bones you see at the railroads could just as easy been collected from skeletons remaining after natural death.

American Prairie buys ranches from willing sellers, as American as apple pie and baseball. Its none of you gdamn business who a private landowner decides to sell to. If they want to pass their ranches on to their kids, sell it to the hippies down the street, sell it to the Federal Government, or sell to a non profit...not any of your concern.

AP is also great about public access, they allow hunting and allow access across their property to formerly landlocked BLM, State, and other Federal lands.

Also, the BLM leases typically go with the property, they aren't directly purchased but rather continue with property that AP purchases.

The bison were approved for grazing on AP BLM leases, because guess what? The Republicans in Montana were so "smart" they fell for the DOL to classify bison as livestock in Montana? Why? So the DOL could kill the bison that leave Yellowstone Park.

That has consequences and the brain trust that is the Republican Party in Montana should have been smart enough to realize what those consequences would be. The BLM is simply allowing the state classified livestock (bison) that AP owns, to graze as livestock on their BLM leases that were tied to the ranches they legally purchased.

Please provide proof of this year round bison grazing the BLM is allowing...I say you're full of chit, as per always.

Oh, and here's a bull my Dad shot on AP property that they acquired from a poaching scumbag from Minneapolis. A year prior, this property was off limits to the public, I'm very happy AP purchased it. My family and I donate to AP every year, and they're the best thing that's ever happened to the breaks. Great organization that does great work.





As to the tribes expanding their bison herds, I hope they continue what they're already doing. Again, I have ZERO issue with tribes doing what they want on their reservations, its NONE of anyone's business but theirs. If they can corral some Federal money to continue to expand their herds, I think that's great. No different than other ranchers receiving subsidized grazing and farming.

Heck the APR might even buy Conrads place if he gets rid of the toilet in the front "yard" LOL

Oh man! Change your tampon Cathy!


Your buddies are the biggest bunch of money laundering, access limiting crooks around!

No wonder BHA loves em!


Hahahaha!



Nothing makes for cleaner Bozeman real estate development money than running it through a "conservation" outfit first!