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Keep er rolling!


That poor working slob from California is gonna cry uncle any moment!

On fire, and on displayed.

I did donate a NR Arizona rifle bull elk tag that I drew to hunt of a lifetime in 2012. Young lady with cancer killed a nice bull with it as well.

I've helped a lot of other youth hunters as well.

Ever wonder how self serving and self centered these "back country" pricks are?

Well....now we know....


Let's see some more pictures!

Then have him tell how the taxpayer is getting his money’s worth in the tax dollars that are paying his salary and time off to hunt fish and prospect all the great areas while on the job.

Of what? Elk, Pronghorn, sheep, muskox, mule deer, whitetails, moose, goat, sitka blacktails, coues deer, oryx, black bears, more fish, what?

You have to be more specific.

I only get to carry over 240 hours of leave a year, acquire another 300-320 or so, well, and all the holidays off too.

Are we cross?

And there it is...


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Lot of great pics Buzz.
Looks like you've done your share of hunting for sure.

Still not sure how this disqualifies you from being an environmentalist with an agenda other than what is on the surface. But cool pics.

Wish you would share them more often.

Are you ignorant? When wouldn’t we be cross, you have done nothing but criticize anything I’ve ever done and if I was to brag as you do, I could account for more elk, bigger moose and collectively more game than you.

Bitch about Montana’s game and policies and still come here to rape the harlot you condemn, you really are a piece of work…

Not sure why that question riled you up Buzz.
Like I said, I'll always be on the side of the local farmer/rancher. If they don't support it, it doesn't pass the smell test.
Trusting lobbyists and politicians doesn't have a great track record.

I guess if putting a high value on habitat, hunting, fishing, public access, public lands and wildlife means environmentalist...then yeah, count me in that group.

I'm fine with that.

Pig eyed, rat nosed little weasel.

That's fine, I'll always be on the side of wildlife, habitat, public lands, hunting, and fishing as my top priority.

Never did think collaborating with the ag community can't be part of all that, or that they have to conflict...in particular those that also place a high value on the same things I do.

Lots of great private landowners out there, no question.

I agree with you there, Shrapnel has that look.

Hilarious...

Funny, I don't see any carp.

Back to bison managed by natives.

Other than casinos, can anyone share about a native owned business that has been successful longterm, without white management? Even the casinos are likely run by whites.

I've lived near native reserves all my life, matter of fact, I'm less than 3 miles from the Tsuu T'ina reserve right now. Many of these reserves had serious cash flow from oil, the Tsuu T'ina from real estate development.
Near Wetaskiwin, there was a Cree owned truck stop along highway 2. For a few years it was a going concern. Today, it's vacant and covered by graffiti. It's quite common today for all the ills of the natives to be blamed on residential schools that shut down in the 1996. How many generations must go by before the schools stop being a excuse for drunkiness, incest, drug abuse, theft, domestic violence, drunk driving and satanism?

The schools were an attempt to bring the natives into modern society. A noble idea, poorly executed. The churches who ran the schools should be embarrassed that they did not demonstrate Christ like traits.

A lot of BC natives are not part of a treaty. They fail like the ghettoized Treaty 7 and 8 natives in Alberta.

I've been to Soweto (not near as bad as what we have seen in the news) in South Africa. I've been past many native settlements in South Africa. The settlements are nothing but reserves by another name. I've been through the Transkei. This is/was a seriously large chunk of land which was taken from white farmers in 1976 and given to the natives to "self govern". You can still see the terraced hillsides where pineapples were grown before the land was handed over to the natives. This experiment of "self governance" ended in 1994. There is not much farming in the Transkei now. The natives run some cattle, sheep and goats. They don't even care that their native cattle (nguni) breed is interbreeding with any old breed. Who is preserving the nguni breed? White farmers. The old farmsteads are still there. Most are inhabited, but most have a kraal adjacent. A kraal is a cattle pen. It's where the men go to drink beer (mostly home made), women aren't allowed. When we were first there in 2014, the Communist ANC party, wanted to ensure that they were re-elected. I was told that they gave each rural home an outdoor toilet and a solar powered hot water tank. If you weren't black, you got nada. I'm not sure if they used the hot water tanks, but they just walked past the toilets and went in the bush like they always did.

Given my observations, the native ran bison initiatives are doomed to fail, without a lot of white oversight. It seems that the natives cannot get out of their rut. I want the natives to succeed, I really do, but it seems they can't.

Well aren’t you a saint..

BuzzH. Why do you think that you are the only supporter on this thread of BHA and the APR? You're just smarter than anyone else? You do know that Don Quixote who tilted at windmills was insane? He tilted by himself, is my point. He thought he was smarter than anyone else.

BTW, if you yourself are killing 3-5 elk every year plus assorted other game, then you are a game hog. How can you possibly ever use that much game meat? I could harvest more deer than I do quite easily, but we only need so much. I do not shoot more than we can use and can find a home for. Finding enough people to take the game (especially because I will not process it for them.), that I and my daughters could shoot, is seriously hard work. I guess that serves me right for being a borderline introvert, I don't need people other than family. Since the daughters hunt, I shoot less. We only need so much, we don't need more than we can use.

BuzzH, you put too much emphasis on your body count. Even 3-5 elk a year is too much, even without assorted other big game.

If you can't see that the BHA and APR are the proverbial camel getting it's nose under the edge of the tent, then you are also seriously misguided.