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Originally Posted by BuzzH
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Buzz, how much money does BHA receive every year from the powerful gun ban lobbies?

I have no interest in intellectually honest conversation. Wade through this to see if you can find the real answer. Good luck.


https://www.backcountryhunters.org/financials

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Originally Posted by BuzzH
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Buzz, how much money does BHA receive every year from the powerful gun ban lobbies?

I'm not your secretary...

If you cant comprehend, I'm sure you know a 3rd grader that can read it to you and explain the tough parts.

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/financials

lol is this a joke?

Can you post some of BHA executive's financials for the truth

I don't see BHA leader Ryan Busse's name in there

How much does he get paid working for Gabby Giffords and Moms against Guns?

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Why does Backcountry Hunters executives work for for a powerful anti gun lobby?

What does this have to do with hunting?

How much is your close friend and BHA head Busse paid a year buzzy?

https://giffords.org/press-release/2021/06/former-firearms-executive-ryan-busse-joins-giffords/

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buzzy ran away again

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And buzzy you're a BHA executive . Why does a hunting organization executive like you support a convicted anti hunting eco terrorist who spiked trees that injure loggers to run our public lands? What does supporting a convicted ecoterrorist have to do with hunting?


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Backcountry Hunters and Anglers publicly supporting an environmental nut job to run the Bureau of Land Management!!!???

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Biden nominee Tracy Stone-Manning blasted by GOP for link to 1989 logging sabotage
Tracy Stone-Manning is facing GOP pressure to withdraw her BLM nomination from President Joe Biden over her ties to environmental activists convicted of spiking trees to sabotage a national forest
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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.
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Can you share any information on Stone-Manning's conviction of being an eco-terrorist?

I'd be really interested in that article, court documents, etc.

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Originally Posted by ribka
Why does Backcountry Hunters executives work for for a powerful anti gun lobby?

What does this have to do with hunting?

How much is your close friend and BHA head Busse paid a year buzzy?


https://giffords.org/press-release/2021/06/former-firearms-executive-ryan-busse-joins-giffords/

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Funding
When looking at BHA’s funding sources, it’s easy to forget they have anything to do with hunting and fishing at all. All of its primary donors have extensive ties to environmental activist organizations.

The largest donor is the Western Conservation Foundation, which gave $278,423 to BHA in 2011 and 2012 alone. WCF has given handsomely over the years to notorious environmentalists and animal rights activists, including the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Audubon Society, Earthjustice (the self-proclaimed “law firm of the environment”), and Climate Solutions, a major proponent of “global warming.” It has also contributed large sums to the Tides Center, funder of all things leftist. It’s hard to imagine Western Conservation Foundation would donate over a quarter of a million dollars to Backcountry Hunters and Anglers if it wasn’t an organization that shared those same ideological beliefs.

The next largest donor to BHA is the Wilburforce Foundation. From 2009 to 2013, Wilburforce gave a total of $110,000 to BHA for a variety of purposes. As with the Western Conservation Foundation, Wilburforce gives heavily to other notorious environmentalists, including the Environmental Law Institute, the Sierra Foundation, and the Union of Concerned Scientists. Wilburforce’s executive director, Tim Greyhavens, previously worked for the Humane Society of the United States, a vegan activist organization with a PETA-like agenda. BHA also received a $69,000 donation in 2012 from Pew Charitable Trusts, which is famous for its ideological tilt. Other donors include the New Venture Fund ($30,000 total), Conservation Lands Foundation ($26,000 total), Lazar Foundation ($25,000 total), and The Brainerd Foundation ($8,000 total), whose mission is “to safeguard the environment and build broad citizen support for environmental protection.” As with WCF and Wilburforce, each of these organizations have deep connections with the environmental movement, which raises suspicions as to what BHA’s motivations truly are.

BHA Leadership
Not only do BHA’s primary donors have extensive ties to the environmentalist movement, but its leadership does as well. A number of top executives and board members currently work or previously worked for notorious environmental activists.

Most prominent is BHA executive director Land Tawney, who ran the liberal political action committee (PAC) calling itself the “Montana Hunters and Anglers Leadership Fund” (MHA). In 2012, this pop-up PAC spent $1.1 million against Republican U.S. Senate candidate Danny Rehberg, who was challenging Democratic U.S. Sen. Jon Tester. The liberal MHA also spent $500,000 in support of the libertarian candidate as a strategy of drawing votes away from the Republican. MHA received several hundred thousand dollars from the League of Conservation Voters, a liberal environmentalist group. Tawney is also a member of the Montana Sportsmen for Obama Committee and previously served as the National Grassroots Coordinator for the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, which, like BHA, is an environmentalist front that poses as a hunter and fisher group.

Taken together, BHA’s funding sources and leadership make clear that the interests of hunters and anglers are the least of their concerns. Environmentalist activism is the name of the game at BHA, and hunters and anglers are just the facade.

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Originally Posted by mjs3240
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California lion hunting ban happened in 1990, 14 years before BHA existed.

Oh, and look at that...the Gipper was an anti-hunter, not surprised since he was also anti-gun and pro gun control.

Voters approved Proposition 117 in 1990, to codify a long-standing moratorium on lion hunting that had first been imposed by then Gov. Ronald Reagan in 1972.

Actually as I recall it the Fish and Game Commissiion instuted the ban on lion hunting for 20 years so that they could study the lion population in the state. I don't remember Regan having anything to do with it. At that time they had a $50 bounty on lion's in California. When the ban was about to be lifted the Hollywood elite and SPCA got wind of it and got all up in arms and got a ballot measure to ban the hunting of lions passed(prop 117). I think I remember Dorris Day being behind it. Years later after lions killed and ate a few joggers we tried to pass prop 197 which would have allowed lion hunting to occur again but it failed to pass. So now we have lions everwhere including the SF Bay area Baylands. This state hired professional wildlife biologist but did not follow their advice.

In 1971, Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the four-year hunting moratorium. The state began tagging and tracking mountain lions. The predators could be killed for attacking humans or livestock with a permit good for just 10 days, and only within 10 miles of where the attack happened.

It took effect at the end of the lion season in 1972...and was signed by the Gipper.

In 1971 I was attending Humboldt State University majoring in wildlife management. The proposed morotorium on lion hunting was a topic of discussion. This was being pushed by wildlife biologists and not Regan. They had no desire to ban lion hunting permentanly. The moritorium was to be only for 20 years.[/quote]

He signed it...FACT.

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Originally Posted by ribka
Funding
When looking at BHA’s funding sources, it’s easy to forget they have anything to do with hunting and fishing at all. All of its primary donors have extensive ties to environmental activist organizations.

The largest donor is the Western Conservation Foundation, which gave $278,423 to BHA in 2011 and 2012 alone. WCF has given handsomely over the years to notorious environmentalists and animal rights activists, including the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Audubon Society, Earthjustice (the self-proclaimed “law firm of the environment”), and Climate Solutions, a major proponent of “global warming.” It has also contributed large sums to the Tides Center, funder of all things leftist. It’s hard to imagine Western Conservation Foundation would donate over a quarter of a million dollars to Backcountry Hunters and Anglers if it wasn’t an organization that shared those same ideological beliefs.

The next largest donor to BHA is the Wilburforce Foundation. From 2009 to 2013, Wilburforce gave a total of $110,000 to BHA for a variety of purposes. As with the Western Conservation Foundation, Wilburforce gives heavily to other notorious environmentalists, including the Environmental Law Institute, the Sierra Foundation, and the Union of Concerned Scientists. Wilburforce’s executive director, Tim Greyhavens, previously worked for the Humane Society of the United States, a vegan activist organization with a PETA-like agenda. BHA also received a $69,000 donation in 2012 from Pew Charitable Trusts, which is famous for its ideological tilt. Other donors include the New Venture Fund ($30,000 total), Conservation Lands Foundation ($26,000 total), Lazar Foundation ($25,000 total), and The Brainerd Foundation ($8,000 total), whose mission is “to safeguard the environment and build broad citizen support for environmental protection.” As with WCF and Wilburforce, each of these organizations have deep connections with the environmental movement, which raises suspicions as to what BHA’s motivations truly are.

BHA Leadership
Not only do BHA’s primary donors have extensive ties to the environmentalist movement, but its leadership does as well. A number of top executives and board members currently work or previously worked for notorious environmental activists.

Most prominent is BHA executive director Land Tawney, who ran the liberal political action committee (PAC) calling itself the “Montana Hunters and Anglers Leadership Fund” (MHA). In 2012, this pop-up PAC spent $1.1 million against Republican U.S. Senate candidate Danny Rehberg, who was challenging Democratic U.S. Sen. Jon Tester. The liberal MHA also spent $500,000 in support of the libertarian candidate as a strategy of drawing votes away from the Republican. MHA received several hundred thousand dollars from the League of Conservation Voters, a liberal environmentalist group. Tawney is also a member of the Montana Sportsmen for Obama Committee and previously served as the National Grassroots Coordinator for the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, which, like BHA, is an environmentalist front that poses as a hunter and fisher group.

Taken together, BHA’s funding sources and leadership make clear that the interests of hunters and anglers are the least of their concerns. Environmentalist activism is the name of the game at BHA, and hunters and anglers are just the facade.

Nothing else need be said. They are a leftist organization. Rest assured that the left is using them for useful fools. When the left wants payback, they'll demand that BHA join them in anti-gun efforts such as "assault" weapons bans, so that they can claim a major gun/hunting organization support their efforts. This explains why Buzz was evasive, defensive and combative.

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Poor Buzz, his game was outed here. Wouldn't have happened if he had just stuck with the safety of moderation over at Hunt Kawk.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I plowed through much of this, painful though it was. Fairly typical pissing match with the majority on both sides afraid of answering questions.

I do have a few things to mention. I perused BHAs Facebook page and asked a few questions. It doesn't appear to be a very interactive page. Anywhere in their feed where I saw they mentioned working with a politician, that politician was a Democrat.

I had no idea who American Prairie was. I looked them up. What percentage of this BOD is Democrat? https://americanprairie.org/leadership/#national-board-of-directors I hate to judge based on looks, but there's a heavy team D influence in that group. ANYONE who trusts Democrats with their hunting and gun rights is a fool of the highest order.


Oh, so Reagan and Ford must have been democrats then? Keep going...I'm curious.

May 3, 1994

To Members of the U.S. House of Representatives: We are writing to urge your support for a ban on the domestic manufacture of military-style assault weapons. This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety. Although assualt weapons account for less than 1% of the guns in circulation, they account for nearly 10% of the guns traced to crime.

Every major law enforcement organization in America and dozens of leading labor, medical, religious, civil rights and civic groups support such a ban. Most importantly, poll after poll shows that the American public overwhelmingly support a ban on assault weapons. A 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 77% of Americans support a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of semi-automatic assault guns, such as the AK-47.

The 1989 import ban resulted in an impressive 40% drop in imported assault weapons traced to crime between 1989 and 1991, but the killing continues. Last year, a killer armed with two TEC9s killed eight people at a San Francisco law firm and wounded several others. During the past five years, more than 40 law enforcement officers have been killed or wounded in the line of duty by an assault weapon.

While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals. We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons.

Sincerely,

Gerald R. Ford

Jimmy Carter

Ronald Reagan

Good lort. That was 30 years ago. Can we focus on the problems of today rather than dredging up news from 3 decades ago? Anyone who trusts their gun rights to today's democrats is a damn fool.

These problems today are because of the past weakening of the Second by people like Ronald Reagan...fact.

There are no new ideas since Reagan stabbed hunters and the second in the back...so sad.

The anti's follow the same playbook made popular by Reagan.

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Originally Posted by ribka
Funding
When looking at BHA’s funding sources, it’s easy to forget they have anything to do with hunting and fishing at all. All of its primary donors have extensive ties to environmental activist organizations.

The largest donor is the Western Conservation Foundation, which gave $278,423 to BHA in 2011 and 2012 alone. WCF has given handsomely over the years to notorious environmentalists and animal rights activists, including the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Audubon Society, Earthjustice (the self-proclaimed “law firm of the environment”), and Climate Solutions, a major proponent of “global warming.” It has also contributed large sums to the Tides Center, funder of all things leftist. It’s hard to imagine Western Conservation Foundation would donate over a quarter of a million dollars to Backcountry Hunters and Anglers if it wasn’t an organization that shared those same ideological beliefs.

The next largest donor to BHA is the Wilburforce Foundation. From 2009 to 2013, Wilburforce gave a total of $110,000 to BHA for a variety of purposes. As with the Western Conservation Foundation, Wilburforce gives heavily to other notorious environmentalists, including the Environmental Law Institute, the Sierra Foundation, and the Union of Concerned Scientists. Wilburforce’s executive director, Tim Greyhavens, previously worked for the Humane Society of the United States, a vegan activist organization with a PETA-like agenda. BHA also received a $69,000 donation in 2012 from Pew Charitable Trusts, which is famous for its ideological tilt. Other donors include the New Venture Fund ($30,000 total), Conservation Lands Foundation ($26,000 total), Lazar Foundation ($25,000 total), and The Brainerd Foundation ($8,000 total), whose mission is “to safeguard the environment and build broad citizen support for environmental protection.” As with WCF and Wilburforce, each of these organizations have deep connections with the environmental movement, which raises suspicions as to what BHA’s motivations truly are.

BHA Leadership
Not only do BHA’s primary donors have extensive ties to the environmentalist movement, but its leadership does as well. A number of top executives and board members currently work or previously worked for notorious environmental activists.

Most prominent is BHA executive director Land Tawney, who ran the liberal political action committee (PAC) calling itself the “Montana Hunters and Anglers Leadership Fund” (MHA). In 2012, this pop-up PAC spent $1.1 million against Republican U.S. Senate candidate Danny Rehberg, who was challenging Democratic U.S. Sen. Jon Tester. The liberal MHA also spent $500,000 in support of the libertarian candidate as a strategy of drawing votes away from the Republican. MHA received several hundred thousand dollars from the League of Conservation Voters, a liberal environmentalist group. Tawney is also a member of the Montana Sportsmen for Obama Committee and previously served as the National Grassroots Coordinator for the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, which, like BHA, is an environmentalist front that poses as a hunter and fisher group.

Taken together, BHA’s funding sources and leadership make clear that the interests of hunters and anglers are the least of their concerns. Environmentalist activism is the name of the game at BHA, and hunters and anglers are just the facade.

Already been established Berman and Coggins have no credibility and Tester never ran against "Danny Rehberg".

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Originally Posted by longarm
Poor Buzz, his game was outed here. Wouldn't have happened if he had just stuck with the safety of moderation over at Hunt Kawk.

Did you find that 3rd grader to explain those financials to you yet?

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Poor Buzz, his game was outed here. Wouldn't have happened if he had just stuck with the safety of moderation over at Hunt Kawk.

Did you find that 3rd grader to explain those financials to you yet?

Consider saving your snarkiness for the liberals who fund you. You failed here to convince anyone.

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Buzz as a BHA executive have you received any money like your friend and BHA executive Busse from the powerful anti gun lobby?



Did you or did you not work for Ted Turner one of largest contributors to the anti gun lobby?

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So...to put a bow on this awesome thread.

1. Folk hero Ronald Reagan was a full on anti-hunting, anti-ammo, anti-gun, second amendment hating President who started the modern day anti-hunting and gun control movement via the Mulford Act, banning lion hunting, and getting the Brady bill across the finish line.

2. AP is a great organization that provides excellent public access to not only their lands, but also through their land opening up just shy of a half a million acres. They also allow hunting, fishing, and other recreation on their property, even allowing their bison to be hunted. They have excellent habitat and are the best thing to happen in to NE Montana ever. AP is a winning organization and is getting lots of support and they will reach their goals.

3. Texans know very little about State lands and how they work, but because of my excellent skills in providing facts, rather than a bunch of BS, its clear that States have sold, squandered, and given away their State Trust lands over the years. They need to be watched like a hawk, by excellent groups like BHA who stop things like the Bonander exchange in Wyoming. Further, this is proof that AP should NOT be donating any land to the State of Montana.

4. I've also educated at least one Texan, that it wasn't that long ago lessee's of State lands in Montana kept hunters off of state land, and that only through efforts like those of Jack Atcheson Sr. and dedicated sportsmen like myself, we fought for the ability to hunt State lands.

5. BHA in Wyoming has done some great things for access and all hunters here. Raymond Mountain Access, $34,000 to AccessYes that opened up over 100,000 acres of private lands to hunting and fishing. We are also a federal court case away from opening up another 8.4 million acres in the U.S. to hunting and fishing. A case that BHA has funded to the tune of $120,000 from around 2200 donors who also believe in BHA and public access.

6. Although very modest, humble, and smart, its pretty well a fact that I hunt more than nearly all the 24 hour campfire regulars. There's a few on here that hunt at least as much and maybe more, but they are also very modest type's as well.

7. There are a lot of hunters on 24 that purchase beef, that one was a bit shocking, being a hunting and site and all.

8. Tribes managed to get 25 million to expand their bison herds, which has caused faux outrage on the fire. But it did lead to this awesome thread that has brought many important facts out.


I call this thread a very big success in getting the above facts out on the table.

Glad we did this...good talk.

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Originally Posted by longarm
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by longarm
Poor Buzz, his game was outed here. Wouldn't have happened if he had just stuck with the safety of moderation over at Hunt Kawk.

Did you find that 3rd grader to explain those financials to you yet?

Consider saving your snarkiness for the liberals who fund you. You failed here to convince anyone.

And you failed to read...we'll call it even.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by ribka
Funding
When looking at BHA’s funding sources, it’s easy to forget they have anything to do with hunting and fishing at all. All of its primary donors have extensive ties to environmental activist organizations.

The largest donor is the Western Conservation Foundation, which gave $278,423 to BHA in 2011 and 2012 alone. WCF has given handsomely over the years to notorious environmentalists and animal rights activists, including the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Audubon Society, Earthjustice (the self-proclaimed “law firm of the environment”), and Climate Solutions, a major proponent of “global warming.” It has also contributed large sums to the Tides Center, funder of all things leftist. It’s hard to imagine Western Conservation Foundation would donate over a quarter of a million dollars to Backcountry Hunters and Anglers if it wasn’t an organization that shared those same ideological beliefs.

The next largest donor to BHA is the Wilburforce Foundation. From 2009 to 2013, Wilburforce gave a total of $110,000 to BHA for a variety of purposes. As with the Western Conservation Foundation, Wilburforce gives heavily to other notorious environmentalists, including the Environmental Law Institute, the Sierra Foundation, and the Union of Concerned Scientists. Wilburforce’s executive director, Tim Greyhavens, previously worked for the Humane Society of the United States, a vegan activist organization with a PETA-like agenda. BHA also received a $69,000 donation in 2012 from Pew Charitable Trusts, which is famous for its ideological tilt. Other donors include the New Venture Fund ($30,000 total), Conservation Lands Foundation ($26,000 total), Lazar Foundation ($25,000 total), and The Brainerd Foundation ($8,000 total), whose mission is “to safeguard the environment and build broad citizen support for environmental protection.” As with WCF and Wilburforce, each of these organizations have deep connections with the environmental movement, which raises suspicions as to what BHA’s motivations truly are.

BHA Leadership
Not only do BHA’s primary donors have extensive ties to the environmentalist movement, but its leadership does as well. A number of top executives and board members currently work or previously worked for notorious environmental activists.

Most prominent is BHA executive director Land Tawney, who ran the liberal political action committee (PAC) calling itself the “Montana Hunters and Anglers Leadership Fund” (MHA). In 2012, this pop-up PAC spent $1.1 million against Republican U.S. Senate candidate Danny Rehberg, who was challenging Democratic U.S. Sen. Jon Tester. The liberal MHA also spent $500,000 in support of the libertarian candidate as a strategy of drawing votes away from the Republican. MHA received several hundred thousand dollars from the League of Conservation Voters, a liberal environmentalist group. Tawney is also a member of the Montana Sportsmen for Obama Committee and previously served as the National Grassroots Coordinator for the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, which, like BHA, is an environmentalist front that poses as a hunter and fisher group.

Taken together, BHA’s funding sources and leadership make clear that the interests of hunters and anglers are the least of their concerns. Environmentalist activism is the name of the game at BHA, and hunters and anglers are just the facade.

Nothing else need be said. They are a leftist organization. Rest assured that the left is using them for useful fools. When the left wants payback, they'll demand that BHA join them in anti-gun efforts such as "assault" weapons bans, so that they can claim a major gun/hunting organization support their efforts. This explains why Buzz was evasive, defensive and combative.

About the size of it.


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You might fool the impressionable soy boys but you don't fool us.



You're a worthless pig eyed 'tard.

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You might fool the impressionable soy boys but you don't fool us.



You're a worthless pig eyed 'tard.

Is AP going to buy more ranches this year? I'm hearing good things...

You saved the cowboy yet?

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