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You need to get out more...obviously. FFS.

Thanks Burns for a polite response. To my original post. Generally avoid most conversations but this one is a personal frustration as we have tried to follow the process with APR and FWP and have been denied access for years based on not being able to obtain a reservation during a valid season to access it. You can’t even kill coyotes or prairie dogs on their land.

Some BLM land within are 410 are somehow
Enrolled in the BMA program. Look at land enrolled via chain buttes grazing association or swinging H grazing association BMA’s.

So Buzz you can’t tell me the name of the APR BMA property where an individual can just sign in and hunt without it reservation?

Let me know how the government and the tribes work out bison with disease and cattlemen. Should be interesting

Does everyone who fills out the slip gain the same access you enjoyed?

Is there a draw or lottery or other selection process for those allowed access?

Help us out here Buzzy.

Some would like the hunt that AP property.

North side of the river...figure it out. No I'm not posting it on this site. I don't need to be picking up beer cans, whiskey bottles, and little Debbie wrappers when I hunt there next.

So more lies.


Yer mouth outruns your intellect there Buzzie.

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Yes...you sign in every day

North of the river eh?


How about them leases Buzzie?

so as a BHA rep you refuse to help tax paying sportsmen access federal public land?

Wow you really are a lying ka hunt

thanks buzz for showing your true colors. Not surprised you helped Ted Turner fence off elk deer and antelope herds from public land in Montana when you worked for him

I will admit I have no experience with north side APR properties but all of the property south of the river (410/700) are type 2 and can’t be accessed by the general public by showing up and filling out BMA slip and then hunting.

So there is a type 1 which simply requires sign in and a type 2 that is draw or first come first serve.

What's is the breakdown on the AP between type 1 and type 2?

On the type 2 who determines the draw and first come?

The animals you and your family have taken on the AP were from which type of block managment?

Burns. On their type 2 first come first serve you call a call center which hosted by the APR or sub contractor of theirs not FWP like most of the other type properties. So the call center based out of California decides who is first come and grants access. When we have called they say they have no available opening to access the property inquired. Never once has there been an opening meaning somebody else came first. But yet there is nobody at parking areas indicating someone using the property. And I am not saying this based on a few calls. Daily calls for years and out daily checking cows and first hand eye witness of property usage.

Burns if you subscribe to OnX maps for Montana you can check their type by searching landowner American prairie reserve and then checking each BMA property. When the new BMA book comes out for 2023 I would be happy to mail one to you and you can see the breakdown for yourself. I can only speak of their land south of the river and it’s all type 2 in our area. 100% type 2 as of 2022 BMA regulations.

I had the same experience trying to sharpttail hunt on their lands last fall

Its a scam and only insiders and their friends get access like Buzz and tax payers like you and I are paying for this and get screwed

They recently purchased the 73 ranch land along the mussleshell between 410 and 700. Now 73 ranch when owned privately was not open to the public either it also
Didn’t pretend to allow access to the general public like the APR does. Imagine the opposition they would face if they came out as stopping public access for hunting. So instead they enrolled in a way they control and limit access yet appear to be supportive to the BMA program and general hunting public.

I do not post this out of jealousy either. I am so fortunate to have access to some of the best private land in the area we are describing. Access is not my problem. it’s them misleading the general public about their support of hunting. I will only get a few tags in my lifetime No
Matter what land we own or have access too.

Sorry my writing skills and paragraph skills suck on a smartphone. I hope most get the gist of what I am trying to say and are not focusing on how it looks once I hit post.

So Buzz whey do you call California to hunt on public land in Montana? And why cant you get access to public land in Montana?


Will BHA address this effort to shut off public lands from sportsmen?

Where is Land Tawney your friend on this effort to shut down public access to public land in Montana?