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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I compare the AP and BHA organizations to a State political party <NRA too> soliciting my financial donations for the good of all, where the donated monies go to benefit a select group.

Seems like the AP call for permission is constructed as a filter for the preferred group.


Well, they maintain quite the database of names and profiles.


The reason you have to call them is so that they can check the database and see if you ever said anything nasty about the APR.

That applies to hunting, leasing and subleasing grass from them.


If you ever publicly disagreed with them or their policies.....you dont get access.


Don’t know if that’s true or where your response originates from Jim, but if true that may connect a lot of dots.


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Originally Posted by shootAI
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I compare the AP and BHA organizations to a State political party <NRA too> soliciting my financial donations for the good of all, where the donated monies go to benefit a select group.

Seems like the AP call for permission is constructed as a filter for the preferred group.


Well, they maintain quite the database of names and profiles.


The reason you have to call them is so that they can check the database and see if you ever said anything nasty about the APR.

That applies to hunting, leasing and subleasing grass from them.


If you ever publicly disagreed with them or their policies.....you dont get access.


Don’t know if that’s true or where your response originates from Jim, but if true that may connect a lot of dots.

We were told that several times in conjunction with some friends of mine leasing grass. She was nice about it.


If you have ever had a Save the Cowboy sign up or said nasty things publicly, dont even bother applying for access or leases.


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Appreciate the first hand info

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I know 8 guys that hunt the AP type 2 every year with family. They sign up they hunt, no problems.


Been doing it for years.

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Originally Posted by losttrail60
I know 8 guys that hunt the AP type 2 every year with family. They sign up they hunt, no problems.


Been doing it for years.

Sure you do.


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Burns. On their type 2 first come first serve you call a call center which hosted by the APR or sub contractor of theirs not FWP like most of the other type properties. So the call center based out of California decides who is first come and grants access. When we have called they say they have no available opening to access the property inquired. Never once has there been an opening meaning somebody else came first. But yet there is nobody at parking areas indicating someone using the property. And I am not saying this based on a few calls. Daily calls for years and out daily checking cows and first hand eye witness of property usage.

All of this is starting to come into focus now.

Buzz was correct, this HAS been a valuable discussion, in excess of 36,000+ views now and counting……


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I know 8 guys that hunt the AP type 2 every year with family. They sign up they hunt, no problems.


Been doing it for years.

Sure you do.


It’s real simple they say. But then again theses guys are serious hunters. Just sayin,,,,,,

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Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I know 8 guys that hunt the AP type 2 every year with family. They sign up they hunt, no problems.


Been doing it for years.

Sure you do.


It’s real simple they say. But then again theses guys are serious hunters. Just sayin,,,,,,

Well...if they are serious types they wouldn't have anything to do with you.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Well, they maintain quite the database of names and profiles.


The reason you have to call them is so that they can check the database and see if you ever said anything nasty about the APR.

That applies to hunting, leasing and subleasing grass from them.


If you ever publicly disagreed with them or their policies.....you dont get access.

I believe the Chicoms call that concept “Social Credit”.


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Its how they operate.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I know 8 guys that hunt the AP type 2 every year with family. They sign up they hunt, no problems.


Been doing it for years.

Sure you do.


It’s real simple they say. But then again theses guys are serious hunters. Just sayin,,,,,,

Well...if they are serious types they wouldn't have anything to do with you.


When was the last elk you killed?

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
I compare the AP and BHA organizations to a State political party <NRA too> soliciting my financial donations for the good of all, where the donated monies go to benefit a select group.

Seems like the AP call for permission is constructed as a filter for the preferred group.


Well, they maintain quite the database of names and profiles.


The reason you have to call them is so that they can check the database and see if you ever said anything nasty about the APR.

That applies to hunting, leasing and subleasing grass from them.


If you ever publicly disagreed with them or their policies.....you dont get access.



LOL tin foil much? All you have to do is sign up.

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That one had me scratching my head too. The government subsidizes all kinds of stuff that we all take for granted. Like the home building industry and home buyers, as well as agriculture.

I have zero problem with either of those, and I get zero direct benefit from either. But the thing is, those subsidies are basically good for everyone, and good for the economy as a whole. Our agricultural production capacity is one of our strengths.

Raising buffalo on reservations isn't in the same realm.

Not in the same scale, but certainly in the same realm. Tell me how local businesses, economies, etc. are not going to benefit when tribes have bison herds. Tourism, hunting, sale of meat, etc. etc. from having bison.


Nice red herring buzz, but you proved my point. They are not in the same realm.

Home mortgage deductions and federal ag subsidies benefit all kinds of producers and consumers, all across the country, in every state, without regard to race, creed, or color.

This grant benefits a small amount of people, based on their race. Explain how that's fair. What about the Chinese farmers who want to raise Bok choy, or the white boys who want to raise bison?

White boys that raise bison get theirs...study up.

Study up my ass. Show me where $25 M was set aside for white boys.

Its almost as though we don't live in the information age...FFS.

https://bisoncentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Farm-Bill-Briefing-Paper.pdf

https://www.agupdate.com/livestock/...5f18b93-f6a5-5cc6-893e-d8c218a05710.html

https://ambrook.com/funding/product/bison

https://extension.sdstate.edu/getting-started-bison-ranching





Canada even

https://www.farms.com/news/federal-government-supports-bison-industry-182202.aspx

Yeah, the poor white man is not getting any help with their bison.

I remember when this was a big flap...

Inserting a $10 million subsidy for bison-meat producers, including such needy souls as billionaire Ted Turner,

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1005515185649000640

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Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Originally Posted by losttrail60
I know 8 guys that hunt the AP type 2 every year with family. They sign up they hunt, no problems.


Been doing it for years.

Sure you do.


It’s real simple they say. But then again theses guys are serious hunters. Just sayin,,,,,,

Well...if they are serious types they wouldn't have anything to do with you.


When was the last elk you killed?

Which phoney handle do you use when talking to these "serious" hunters?


Post up a picture of you and your elk there sweetie.

Or do Boomers not know how to do that?


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So the matter is settled. Those who actually have experience with the animals have clarified that bison are just meaner and slower growing cows.

And, as it has been determined that Buzz is raising money for the enemies of everything most of us stand for, just one question remains:
Have we successfully halted Buzz's (effective) proselytizing and fundraising on this site?


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Buzz, you can read, right? Which one of those was set aside for white people only?


That's the question. Let me save you some time though, the answer is zero. Because that would be what we call "illegal."



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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by losttrail60
I know 8 guys that hunt the AP type 2 every year with family. They sign up they hunt, no problems.


Been doing it for years.

Sure you do.


It’s real simple they say. But then again theses guys are serious hunters. Just sayin,,,,,,

Well...if they are serious types they wouldn't have anything to do with you.


When was the last elk you killed?

Which phoney handle do you use when talking to these "serious" hunters?


Post up a picture of you and your elk there sweetie.

Or do Boomers not know how to do that?


Dodge the question much?

When was the last elk you killed?

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Come on Boomer.

I post pictures all the time.

You go first.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
So the matter is settled. Those who actually have experience with the animals have clarified that bison are just meaner and slower growing cows.

And, as it has been determined that Buzz is raising money for the enemies of everything most of us stand for, just one question remains:
Have we successfully halted Buzz's (effective) proselytizing and fundraising on this site?

I think you did that to yourself...fundraising for you is finding change in the ashtray of the 78 pinto on blocks in front of the single wide.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Come on Boomer.

I post pictures all the time.

You go first.


So the answer is never, you have never killed an elk. Got it.

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