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Okay, I have a LH Winchester 70 in 300 WSM that I'll not likely shoot. Not sure whether to sell it or re-barrel to a 6.5 or 25 caliber WSM. I don't need either one but since when does a rifle loony let that slow them down?
It would be mule deer, whitetail, pronghorn and coyotes/pigs on the menu. I'm satisfied either one will work splendidly. 6.5 bullet selection is better but 25 caliber bullets are getting better too.
What say you loonies?
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always wondered why Winchester never made a 6.5 or a .257 WSM would have been a great cartridges either one . i always wanted a .257 WSM in a Ruger #1 but would have been kinda expensive and who would want it after i died ? so i purchased a bunch of 257 Robert rifles for family and myself including 2 Ruger #1 1B`s 257 Roberts , i do also have 2 Ruger #1`s in 257 Weatherby mags. also all shoot great ! but it still haunts me about a Ruger #1 257 WSM . good luck,Pete53
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.264 WSM for the superior bullet selection
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As much as I like a 25 I can’t think of one single reason to other than “you” just want to. I would be much more likely to drop down one more time to 24 if I was inclined to neck the 6.5prc down.
I agree with the proper factory support(Hornady) the 25prc could be a hit….or at least a cool option.
Sorry it reads wsm and I was thinking prc.
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If forced to burn a .532" Winny S/A Donor up,it would be an 8" RPM 7 Whizzum and throated to kiss 2900fps .796 BC 180's at 2.950". Hint................
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Kaleb, since you brought up the PRC, what is the advantage of the PRC over the WSM? Add to that, the SAUM.
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The case is a little shorter than the wsm and a little more available. I’ve not compared side by side with the saum case. I assume the prc is also a little more available than the saum case too.
I love 25’s but I think the same itch could be scratched by loading 108’s or 123’s in the 6.5. I completely get doing something just because though.
The biggest reason I brought up the prc is I wasn’t paying attention and apparently can’t tell the difference between wsm and prc…lol.
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Kaleb, since you brought up the PRC, what is the advantage of the PRC over the WSM? Add to that, the SAUM. Lapua or ADG brass.
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I bought some 7mm SAUM brass from ADG when I was thinking I would build a 7 SAUM and have talked myself out of it due to brass availability.
Looks like the 6.5 PRC is built on a short action where the 7mm and above is built on long actions. That sound right?
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I bought some 7mm SAUM brass from ADG when I was thinking I would build a 7 SAUM and have talked myself out of it due to brass availability.
Looks like the 6.5 PRC is built on a short action where the 7mm and above is built on long actions. That sound right? It's more of a 3.0" sorta cartridge. So it's kind of a tweener between a true short (2.8") and a regular (3.4").
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My buddy and I built several on Highwalls back when the [bleep] caes first came out. We used Ron Smith gain twist Palma tapers on them. His was a 28" and mine was a 30" . Both of these rifles were crazy accurate. I had several 3 and 5 shot groups at 1,000 with them Another friend built one on a Ruger #1, his son still shoots it. I took 5 deer past 900 yards with it, back when I was inclined to try that- which I no longer do BTW. Love that cartridge .... Edit note: if I had my time back I would likely have done up another SAUM instead of the WSM'S , tgst case seemed to work out a bit better Cat
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Winny Whizzum OEM magboxes are 3" and small change. The "difference" betwixt a 7mm ShamWow(2.035") and 7 Whizzum(2.100") case,is .065"...with the 264 Prick going 2.030". Hint.
The 7 Whizzum and 180's,are VERY happy at said 3" COAL. Thus the nudge. Hint..........
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I had a nice Winchester Super Grade in 300 WSM that I had Kirby Allen rebarrel to 6.5 WSM back in 2006. It has been my favored rifle since. Necking down 270 WSM brass is no problem. Bertram make brass with a 6.5 WSM headstamp if needed like when going to Mexico for Coues deer.
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I am giving consideration to doing the same to my LH 300 WSM Model 70.
By the way, the photography at the link on your post is spectacular. Are you Doug?
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I am giving consideration to doing the same to my LH 300 WSM Model 70.
By the way, the photography at the link on your post is spectacular. Are you Doug? A new barrel would certainly be the easy route. And yes, I am Doug.
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OSU, I did a 25saum and a 6.5 saum Lots of years ago. I still have both. The 25 was built on a short 700. I learned several things during that process and so the 6.5 is on a long 700. It was an interesting experience. Both work. Neither do anything other chambering can't do. After all these years I'm still on the watch for brass. I think the plain ol 7saum is more versatile than either. I had some feed issues for a while with the short 700 until Stick offered up his free and correct observations re parts etc.
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headspace, got your pm and responded. the key message I took from your post is that "they won't do anything other chambering can't do". I'm pushing this project back for a while and may move on to another project and leave this one alone.
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There is always time to try something new. And fun. The 25saum is a sort of 257 Weatherby almost. it was entertaining in a short action. The 6.5 on the same case but in a long action was better, but still no magic. I now figure that 3000 fps with anything is plenty enough for me, and more than I need mostly. But,, ain't it fun to experiment?!
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7mm WSM would be the path I took.
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There is always time to try something new. And fun. The 25saum is a sort of 257 Weatherby almost. it was entertaining in a short action. The 6.5 on the same case but in a long action was better, but still no magic. I now figure that 3000 fps with anything is plenty enough for me, and more than I need mostly. But,, ain't it fun to experiment?! AGREED
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