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70s aren't cloned because they are way harder to manufacture and no more accurate. Most people don't care about reliability just the paint job and does it shoot good.
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I meant similar as in same ejector, extractor, etc. Maybe mfg.
Asking if someone who has seen both.
In other words is the new Remington a mimic of the Bergara. No, completely the reverse. The Bergara mimics the 700 Hard to mimic the latest entry with the one there first
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them? Sure got a point there.
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Go check out a new remington 700 cdl and hold it side by side to a new model 70 featherweight. Pretty easy to see which company has higher standards to fit an finish, bluing, ect.. but like I said earlier, those 80s and 90s 700s were top notch.
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I Flippin laugh at my CA mesa. DUAL PLUNGER EJECTORS!🤣 and barely gets the case out of the action. What a pos.
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I Flippin laugh at my CA mesa. DUAL PLUNGER EJECTORS!🤣 and barely gets the case out of the action. What a pos. My stock 700s and bergara ran laps around this dog in function and accuracy.
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Dufur. It's not what I can Dufur you, but what you can Dufur me. Go rangers huh?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this. My vote is for the model 70. A much better rifle than the POS 700: Find me a factory 700 that will print 3 shots into 3/4" at 400 yards.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The Model 70 is a nostalgic piece along with the Mausers. The Model 700 along with its numerous clones own the modern bolt action market.
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Find me a factory 700 that will print 3 shots into 3/4" at 400 yards. How often/regularly does the Model 70 do that?
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Find me a factory 700 that will print 3 shots into 3/4" at 400 yards. How often/regularly does the Model 70 do that? I don’t know, but my M700 Classic .35 Whelen will cut cloverleafs at 100 yards, holes touching, with 225 gr TBBC loads. Never tried to shoot paper at 400 yards. Got a 1966 M700 ADL that’ll do it too. My M70 Featherweight 7x57 shore is purty though….
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Nothing says Gaaayyy like a M700 in 270., FFS. totally screams AIDS.
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The Model 70 is a nostalgic piece along with the Mausers. The Model 700 along with its numerous clones own the modern bolt action market. I'm not so sure about that anymore, if we're talking regular people (not rifle looneys) and volume of sales. The 700 opened the door for even cheaper plastic rifles to replace itself. Axis, RAR, etc. But for pure quality, the M70 wins in a landslide.
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We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this. My vote is for the model 70. A much better rifle than the POS 700: Find me a factory 700 that will print 3 shots into 3/4" at 400 yards. Why did you stop a 3 shots why not 5 or 10………. Were you aiming at the center of the orange?
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I remember the argument that round receivers would split the stocks and the flat bottom receivers would not. Proof that the 70’s were superior!
I’m an early 700 fan. But I’ve had or still have pre-64 70’s, push feed 70’s, and Classic 70’s. I like 70’s too.
I’ve owned quite a few 77’s, hoping that I’d like one. They all went down the road, accuracy and/or stock fit being the issues.
I’ve owned only one Savage bolt - an Axis. I’d call that a truck gun or a rifle I’d keep in the barn in case a rabid skunk appeared. I liked that Axis better than the 77’s, but it went down the road too.
As far as Springfields vs. Mausers go; the Springfields rarely are re-barreled and the Mausers are most often re-barreled. Explain that phenomena, Mauser lovers.
Controlled feeding actions means, harder to rechamber for a different shaped cartridge. That’s about the only difference for me. They work equally well in the field. I’ve had failed to extract more with Mausers than any other, maybe due to my reloads though. I don’t hot rod reloads any more and that’s not been an issue for a long time.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this. My vote is for the model 70. A much better rifle than the POS 700: Find me a factory 700 that will print 3 shots into 3/4" at 400 yards. BSA, is that the rifle you will shoot in the LRVS match on Saturday?
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Since this is the hunting rifles forum, not the paper punching forum and you like pics, which rifle had to be switched out right before a hunt because of a bolt handle that came loose? Keep trying, you might fool a few. We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this. My vote is for the model 70. A much better rifle than the POS 700: Find me a factory 700 that will print 3 shots into 3/4" at 400 yards.
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I've had to shell it out to get a new model 700 to shoot like my model 70. Barrel, stock, bedding, whatever. Give me a baco 70, every time. Even the extreme weathers with that stupid muzzlebreak is a better rifle than anything the rem custom shop can put out now days. And they are 1200 buck to boot.
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Nice pictures SLM. Looks a lot like the Southern AZ country I hunt in.
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Give me a baco 70, every time. Point me in the right direction, as they're difficult to find.
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