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I remember Paul teaching to imitate him in matters of faith.

And I don’t accept your challenge. It’s a conversation. Where is the text? I don’t recall one that tells us to be like Him in person. Maybe being like Him in love it some such thing.

I struggle to remember any scripture that tells us to be like him in His person.

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Kent

Knowing that this particular thread is in a death spiral - mired in the morass of trolling and disingenuous intrusion - I have hesitated to prolong the spiral with even one more post. To only the sincere posters here I apologize if any of my earlier stuff distracted from or derailed anything of importance to you and your efforts. As a mere mortal, I simply seem compelled to deal with those who inject negativity and hate.

Thanks, Kent and other sincere folks, for sharing your perspectives. Those who sincerely try to walk the walk often find benefit in the experiences of colleagues.

If one studied the earlier summary, you know the assessment of this progression. The thread is a pretty good example of the way life unfolds for the types involved. The miracle and act of faith is what seems to define the cleavage between the positive and negative forces with regard to God and the act of salvation.

There has been a positive regarding those who attack Christian tenets by raising the issue “what about those who never got to hear about” the Gospel. Some of those unbelievers – atheist and otherwise – certainly have heard it here.

Best to all.

What did Jesus mean when He said, “Just as I have loved you, you must also love one another”…? And just before He gave this new commandment, Jesus got up from their meal and washed His closest followers stinkin’ feet, and then He said, “For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you.” What did Jesus mean by saying that…?

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Kent

What did Jesus mean when He said, “Just as I have loved you, you must also love one another”…? And just before He gave this new commandment, Jesus got up from their meal and washed His closest followers stinkin’ feet, and then He said, “For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you.” What did Jesus mean by saying that…?

Jesus wants us to humble ourselves and wash others' feet. I know from personal experience the washee is also humbled. Remember Peter's reaction.

Now I understand why I don't understand your posts so often.

How about we try Loving God with all our hearts, minds and strength, and loving our neighbors as ourselves? After we master that we can move on to the fine points. Probably take me several lifetimes to work on this. Anybody else getting it right so far?

Thats .....almost..... the point DBT.
It wasnt a debate, it was a discussion by people of faith defining what their god meant for their beliefs to go forward as....

These threads go up and the usual suspects cant help but enter to contest the existence of a creator, every time. As though their stance with regard to God/faith/religion isnt documented in the discussions they've interrupted before. We all get it, constant reiteration isnt required.

So again, and I'm asking you in the friendliest way possible. please explain what pleasure it is you derive in interjecting your non belief (over and over if we're being honest) in threads where people are discussing their personal beliefs with regard to God/Creation ?

This isnt a derision , I am truly trying to understand, and appreciate your responses. Thanks again.

Knowing that this particular thread is in a death spiral - mired in the morass of trolling and disingenuous intrusion - I have hesitated to prolong the spiral with even one more post. To only the sincere posters here I apologize if any of my earlier stuff distracted from or derailed anything of importance to you and your efforts. As a mere mortal, I simply seem compelled to deal with those who inject negativity and hate.

Thanks, Kent and other sincere folks, for sharing your perspectives. Those who sincerely try to walk the walk often find benefit in the experiences of colleagues.

If one studied the earlier summary, you know the assessment of this progression. The thread is a pretty good example of the way life unfolds for the types involved. The miracle and act of faith is what seems to define the cleavage between the positive and negative forces with regard to God and the act of salvation.

There has been a positive regarding those who attack Christian tenets by raising the issue “what about those who never got to hear about” the Gospel. Some of those unbelievers – atheist and otherwise – certainly have heard it here.

Best to all.

Questioning is not an attack. Questioning and healthy scepticism is the way to truth, the means of sorting fact from fiction. It is a good and healthy thing.

Without questioning we would still be in the dark ages burning witches.

Your lament is related to an intolerance of questioning.

If something is true, it can stand any amount of questioning.

If Christianity or any other religion is true and factual, it stands on its own merit, with no fear of scepticism or questioning.

There is more archaeological evidence for Jesus’ existence than for virtually any other figure from ancient history.
There’s an abundance of corroborating archaeological evidence; a great amount of the people, cities, places, etc. of Jesus’ life and ministry are established in the archaeological record. But when it comes to Jesus specifically, the best proof we have is the Bible.
Many people will object here. They will deny that the Bible can ever be used as evidence of Jesus.
But this question doesn’t get to make that objection. You asked for evidence, and the Bible fits the bill perfectly.
This wasn’t always the case. Back when the King James Version was first translated from the Greek (roughly 400 years ago in 1611 A.D/C.E.), they had reference to perhaps a dozen Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. None of these were particularly old; they were removed from the time of Jesus by many hundreds, if not a thousand, years.
In such a situation, you could imagine all sorts of changes occurring in the text between the time it was first written to the time it was translated.
But then came archaeology.
In the last 150 years, archaeologists have dug up thousands of ancient biblical manuscripts. Today we have over 10,000 manuscripts of the New Testament in the original languages, stretching back in time to the early 2nd and late 1st centuries.
In all of this, there is no evidence of the content changing over time.
There are minor scribal issues, of course. There will always be minor copy issues when human agents perform the copying. But given the abundance of manuscripts, we can easily spot and correct these changes.
The evidence is so strong that even Bart Ehrman, one of the staunchest skeptics around, agrees. Out of the nearly 8,000 verses in the New Testament,

On several levels, those who believe that they are the product of a cosmic sh*it do stand out.

There is to be a new Heaven, and earth.

There is nothing wrong with the Old Testament.