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You keep talking about the problem of God giving different truths to different people if we try to allow the Holy Spirit to guide us. Give one example please. It's absolutely a non-argument.

You don't add any specific biblical substance to these discussions.

Kent

Sounds good, but you most likely cannot stop our Aussie friends...

Because I have faith only....That is all I have....

“Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.” - Paul (Hebrews 11:1), circa 63 AD.

Why do people, Christians, quibble so much about Bible interpretation?

There are good and decent and kind and loving and pure and selfless and considerate and compassionate Believers walking amongst us who walk the walk. The Holy Spirit, regardless of denomination or creed, is the divine spark that makes these people who they are.

Let's get real..... if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..... it is a duck.... if you are honest with yourself about right vs wrong and choose what is right in your life then you have found the Way. Regardless of the minutiae (which can become dogma) of Bible interpretation, salvation is granted to those with pure hearts.

OH AND BTW, flame on.

That's what I am thinking, trolls are in it to annoy.

The Holy Spirit is also called The Spirit of Truth. As you say, if you are honest about what is right VS wrong and choose right, I believe you are following the guidance of The Holy Spirit.

P.S. Those particular "friends" faintly feign interest. However, their repeatedly demonstrated agenda (simply review the previous threads) is to attack and disrupt under the silly guise of "questioning and discussion". Solution: totally ignore their tactics/posts so their quest will hunger, wither and die due to attention-deficit disorder.

Still hating on Christians...especially Catholics, you are so vicious and ruthless....it is called Transubstantiation...

The new Pope, Pope Francis I – unlike his predecessors – has not directly advocated the doctrine of Transubstantiation. Keeping to his South American theological roots, Pope Francis has called for Catholics to consider the Eucharist as an encounter with Christ – an occasion where Christ makes himself available to the community through an act of remembrance. It's an opportunity to be transformed to carry out the work of Christ. The focus here is not on dogma, but the action that flows from it. This is very different from the hard-core theological dogma of the Roman Catholic Church.

When I think about the man Jesus, I think about what he didn't do as much as what he did.

He didn't write anything, there is a reason and it can be debated.

He came as a servant... not as a king/master.

He didn't build a building/temple for people to come to him... he traveled through the people. And that's how the first church continued, the word traveled through people.

Kent

Fixt...

Yep. Moreover the Beatitudes are often overlooked..... why is that?

There's no money in the Beatitudes, it doesn't set the righteous first in line.

Kent

So do we.

What would complete me to enter into a conversation with you concerning the specific historical teachings of scripture when you emphasize emphasize personal knowledge?

I hope that KRP doesn’t mind and I hope that he will correct me if I am not interpreting what he said properly.

Yesterday I asked him(not verbatim) if he believed that the body and souls would be reunited in the resurrection. His answer was no. The influence that would lead a person to that conclusion isn’t new being rooted in Platonic philosophy. Jesus condemned the Sadducee’s for their denial of the resurrection.

A denial of the resurrection of the body and the body and soul being reunited in antithetical to the teachings of scripture and historical traditions of the faith. There is absolutely no way that the Holy Spirit would teach or inspire a person to believe and teach that.

That’s one example. If that doesn’t directly answer your question I’d be more than happy to give other examples.

What I think is that helping a person understand scripture or properly teach would not be the main job of the Holy Spirit. You guys seem to be arguing over scripture and who it was that was led by the Spirit and which one wasn't. I wouldn't think winning an argument would be the main job of the Holy Spirit either.

I'll just say it like this. The Holy Spirit, henceforth referred to as HS, dwells inside a believer to lead them into truth. HS is also referred in scripture as The Spirit of Truth. His least job would be bible study. You need truthful guidance every minute of every day. He is there to guide you to make the decisions that produce fruit in your life. That fruit is defined in scripture as love, joy, peace, goodness, gentleness, meekness and temperance, if my memory serves. I could have missed one.

It's really simple. If you examine your life in truth, you know steps you need to take or things you need to do to have those desirable qualities in your life. If you do those things that the Spirit of Truth is quietly whispering to you, you will grow those fruits. Here's the clincher though, you don't get the love, joy, etc. because you did a good job and reached your goals. You never reach all your goals. You get that fruit in your life by knowing you are trying. by trying to be the kind of person you want to be, a person you like. That would be called walking in the Spirit.

Because you are judging yourself every minute of every day, you need the grace God gives in the Gospel. You need the scriptures to show you that God can work with any idiot that's willing.

I'll correct you again: you are still wrong. It must be a habit. A habit driven by your sense of vulnerability, you feel your faith is under attack .

That is proven by your lack of rational discussion, instead you focus
your frustration onto me

It is you who is insincere and thoughtless in your inability or unwillingness to defend your faith rationally. You are not alone, it's typical for those in your position.

Paul spoke on behalf of the Jesus he believed in through his conversion to Christianity on the road to Damascus.

As did the authors of Mark, Matt, Peter and Johns revelation, etc.

As it happens that the books of the new testament are Christian canon, your cherry picking is irrelevant, and it remains that there is no condemnation of slavery in the new or old testament and the words of Paul tacidly condone the practice. Being Christian canon, Paul speaks on behalf of Christianity, Jesus and the biblical version of God.

To question is not to deceive, but to enlighten. Rather than 'satanic,' it is a positive thing.

It is something you all do when it comes to other religions and other faiths and extraordinary claims, but neglect to do when it comes to your own.

That is the truth, and deep down you know it.