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I got a like new Starrett micrometer off ebay for dirt cheap.



....it was metric:(


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I got a like new Starrett micrometer off ebay for dirt cheap.



....it was metric:(
Now you can figure out what all of those taps are that you have in buckets... 😄

Get yourself one of these too.
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Originally Posted by gunswizard
They tried to force the metric system on us in the early 1970's, it went nowhere.

It went nowhere? ..... So you're saying Americans can't multiply or divide by 10 and get it right? LOL

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OK, an inch is three barley corns laid end, a foot is the length of a man's foot. Pure simplicity right?


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Originally Posted by denton
Metric is vastly easier, and fully as precise as our system. But if you grew up on our system, the transition is painful. The worst situation is a helter skelter mix of the two, which is what we have in the US.

So, is it a good idea to have engineers who can only work with the "vastly easier" system designing aircraft and bridges?

Working with a slide rule can be tedious, but do we want people who don't have the capacity to deal with a slide rule designing spacecraft?

Digital calculators make arithmetic problems simple and easy, but do we want people who never develop enough number sense to solve 297^2 / 17^3 using a pencil and paper designing nuclear reactors?


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
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Metric is vastly easier, and fully as precise as our system. But if you grew up on our system, the transition is painful. The worst situation is a helter skelter mix of the two, which is what we have in the US.

So, is it a good idea to have engineers who can only work with the "vastly easier" system designing aircraft and bridges?

Working with a slide rule can be tedious, but do we want people who don't have the capacity to deal with a slide rule designing spacecraft?

Digital calculators make arithmetic problems simple and easy, but do we want people who never develop enough number sense to solve 297^2 / 17^3 using a pencil and paper designing nuclear reactors?

Wrong questions. Irrelevant.

You can find the number of sheep in a flock by counting the legs and dividing by four. But there is an easier way.

There are a great many engineers in the world who design aircraft and bridges using only the metric system, or use the old system only incidentally. They seem to be doing alright.

SLIDE RULE???? Dear me. 'Tis quaint. At one time, I was very proficient with mine. I keep it as a momento. Haven't had reason to seriously use it in about 50 years.

Whether a person can or can't calculate squares and quotients by hand is irrelevant to the discussion of which system is better.

I have no stake in persuading you. I'm quite happy to let you work in whatever system you like. But I do take exception when some of the other posters give foolish and uninformed reasons for their choice, or resort to name calling.

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is a dozen metric eggs 1.2 dozen?


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Originally Posted by denton
There are a great many engineers in the world who design aircraft and bridges using only the metric system, or use the old system only incidentally. They seem to be doing alright.


...which is why they got to the moon first.

Seriously, though. This is so much like the MOA v. mils arguments. Whatever a fellow is competent with and comfortable using will work for him. There is no solid, compelling reason to force the metric system upon an unwilling country.


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by denton
There are a great many engineers in the world who design aircraft and bridges using only the metric system, or use the old system only incidentally. They seem to be doing alright.


...which is why they got to the moon first.

Seriously, though. This is so much like the MOA v. mils arguments. Whatever a fellow is competent with and comfortable using will work for him. There is no solid, compelling reason to force the metric system upon an unwilling country.

On that, we heartily agree.


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They tried to force the metric system on us in the early 1970's, it went nowhere.
It went nowhere? ..... So you're saying Americans can't multiply or divide by 10 and get it right? LOL
It’s not that they “can’t”, but that they ignorantly refuse to. Almost as if it comes from “soccer nations”!

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Originally Posted by rickt300
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I can't believe some of the irrational bullshit I'm reading here.

An interesting thought, tell me how measuring in thousandths of an inch is harder than measuring in millimeters. And tell me how using a Metric steel tape is easier or faster than using one set up for inches.

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WTF ?

When did conthairs become mm's ?


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Looked it up, there are multiple definitions of the standard meter length and those have changed over the years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre

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Originally Posted by mathman
I can't believe some of the irrational bullshit I'm reading here.

An interesting thought, tell me how measuring in thousandths of an inch is harder than measuring in millimeters. And tell me how using a Metric steel tape is easier or faster than using one set up for inches.

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WTF ?

When did conthairs become mm's ?


What does the metric system use in place of color coded ones?
"A thin blonde one?"What about time?



How does the ErroAsiaFriken [bleep] deal with time?

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7 days, /week
4 weeks/month, But not even weeks, 28, 30 or 31 days. Sometimes 29


12 months of uneven days, or 52 weeks but not really......

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Originally Posted by ironbender
It’s not that they “can’t”, but that they ignorantly refuse to. Almost as if it comes from “soccer nations”!

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There’s enough wiggle room in FIFA regs that you can have a 105m x 70m soccer pitch, but the critical goal and penalty box dimensions are still 100% Imperial.

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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Seriously, though. This is so much like the MOA v. mils arguments. Whatever a fellow is competent with and comfortable using will work for him. There is no solid, compelling reason to force the metric system upon an unwilling country.

Has anyone brung up the infamous failed Mars mission yet?

What really surprises me is that Imperial units were employed anywhere in the whole process.

125 million and maybe a few careers out the window…..

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-oct-01-mn-17288-story.html


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Using only one system when getting my engineering degree would have nice.

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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
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But the places with metric often have Celsius too. Which is less precise than fahrenheit.

So tell us how it's about precision and accuracy lol

Could be like 3 or four degrees colder or hotter, same temp in C
Is there an issue with measuring Celsius to the 0.001 degree C?

Please explain the rationale of having water freeze at 32 degrees vs 0 degrees.

Why is that significant?


Because mjbgalt says Celsius is less precise than Fahrenheit.

I'd like to hear how, and why.

Just told you. One degree of C could be several degrees of F...it is less precise.

Yes, but C is measured in tenths of a degree also.

And, there are only 100 degrees C between freezing and boiling points, instead of 180 degrees F which would appear to make C more precise than F, no?

It's a measuring system, just like any other measuring system. Cubits, rods and chains, parsecs, bushels and pecks, quarts and cups and ounces, etc to no end.

The difference, as I understand it, is it is in base 10 (decimal system) which makes it relatively easy to multiply and divide parts equally across the system.

Instead, certain parts of the West are still using measuring systems with differing, and somewhat more difficult to use, bases. Those, once learned and memorized, are easy enough for regular users to understand. Sometimes. I've known folks in their 40's that still have to look up how many quarts in a gallon and then how many ounces does that multiply out to. But, a liter is always 1000 milliliters. Or 100 centiliters. Or 10 deciliters. Easy peasy scheidt I tell you.

I say let's go back to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_units_of_measurement


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And, there are only 100 degrees C between freezing and boiling points, instead of 180 degrees F which would appear to make C more precise than F, no?

No.

If we're working in whole degrees then Farenheit degrees cut finer.

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