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“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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For Montana, Wyoming and Utah as well as about 1/2 of Colorado I'd suggest skipping this coming season. I am betting 2023 is going to suck.
The winter kill here is very bad. Game numbers will be VERY diminished, so I believe most of the hunts will be a waist of money and time. I live in the middle of some very good elk, deer and antelope areas, BUT i AM NOT GOING TO EVEN BUY TAGS AT ALL.
I want the game herds to build back up in numbers.
Make your own decisions, but if any non-residents are going to spend a lot of many and travel a long way, I'd give some advice to go a lot farther south then the mid Rockies. Many of out hears of Antelope, deer and elk are way down now. Some over 50%. A few smaller deer areas are down 85%.
I think it's best to let them build their numbers back.
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Southern ID has lots of mountain snow but along the Snake River plain where lots of deer, elk, and antelope winter, there's very little snow.
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Applied for MT NR last night.
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For Montana, Wyoming and Utah as well as about 1/2 of Colorado I'd suggest skipping this coming season. I am betting 2023 is going to suck.
The winter kill here is very bad. Game numbers will be VERY diminished, so I believe most of the hunts will be a waist of money and time. I live in the middle of some very good elk, deer and antelope areas, BUT i AM NOT GOING TO EVEN BUY TAGS AT ALL.
I want the game herds to build back up in numbers.
Make your own decisions, but if any non-residents are going to spend a lot of many and travel a long way, I'd give some advice to go a lot farther south then the mid Rockies. Many of out hears of Antelope, deer and elk are way down now. Some over 50%. A few smaller deer areas are down 85%.
I think it's best to let them build their numbers back. I hope you're young, it'll take a hell of a long time to build deer & antelope #'s back up. We're getting hammered again today with azz-loads of snow.
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About 5 years ago, we had a bad winter with a very high mule deer kill off. The IDFG collared a bunch of fawns to track them and 100% of them died. They made up for the loss the following year as most of the does I saw had twins.
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It is not bad all over Wyoming, we are just fine in our part of the state.
Unless this storm brings feet of snow it will not be an issue over here.
You all on the West side need a break for sure.
Pronghorn will bounce back pretty quick with twin and maybe triplet fawns.
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Our deer herd has never come back and it was one of the best in the state. Sad.
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What does an IL or IA non res elk tag cost?
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What does an IL or IA non res elk tag cost? They're priceless.
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What does an IL or IA non res elk tag cost? They're priceless. Makes the other states seem like a bargain.
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Today is the last day for applications in Colorado. Good Luck to all on the draw.
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Today is the last day for applications in Colorado. Good Luck to all on the draw. Hope to draw my favorite unit with my son this year. If there's no elk we'll go bear hunting and trout fishing. It's vacation time, dammit!!
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I expect crowds & wolves will eventually stop my annual elk hunt in CO maybe even before my goal of 70 in 7 seasons. I’ve had great experiences & success & was hoping my grandkids would enjoy the same.
I plan to shoot every big coyote I see now that the state has forced me to buy a small game license. I’ll encourage the same for others in my group & friends. Everyone knows we hunters from CA aren’t great at game identifying but we know coyotes in CO are much bigger than ours. I shoot everything that looks like a coyote unless I have elk in sight. I can’t count the times I’ve sat glassing and passed on a coyote and didn’t see an elk all day. I sometimes carry an extra rifle when turkey hunting in case Wile E. strolls by.
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Our deer herd has never come back and it was one of the best in the state. Sad. Montana's deer herd is 25% of what it was in the 90's.
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