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The people in charge better revive it. Military enlistments are way down and wokism has destroyed what there is of America's military.

Nato's industrial base has been severely damaged by the lack of energy that it got from Russia before the neocons wrecked the Nordstream pipeline and Western Europe has no enthusiasm for going to war with Russia.

Russia and China have set aside their differences in order to counter the hegemonic desires of the U.S.A. (which is too weak to implement them, anyway)

Saudi Arabia, which has been aligned with the U.S.A., is stepping back and forming a cooperative with Iran and Syria. It's very likely that the rest of the Middle East will go along.

America is 31 trillion dollars in debt and banks are collapsing.

Basically, the west is in a severe decline while the global south is forming a coalition which will establish a new world order. China is the largest manufacturer on the planet and is constructing a rail system to deliver it's goods across Russia and Europe.

If an announcement of a new alliance between Iran and Israel would be a ten on the international Richter scale, then an alliance between Saudi and Iran is about a 9.5. They hate each other that much. They’ve been fighting an active proxy war in Yemen for a decade.

The fact that they are now aligned and Syria too, show you how drastically things are shifting. The missteps are huge. There is the last thirty years of us going around and invading who we want, pissing people off needlessly and so on and so forth. There is this insane green energy mess that is 180 degrees opposed to what is good for a country like Saudi that relies on oil revenue. There is the massive spending and devaluation of our dollar, the world reserve currency, that causes economic hardship in all of these countries. There is the loss of any moral superiority we had with our illegal invasions, rampant political and economic corruption, blatantly fraudulent elections, and prosecution of political enemies. And then there is our weakness.

This is hilarious. Russia and China are desperate, banks collapsing, chicken little.

Ok. Minsk2 was not implemented due to the US removing and then installing <2014> a government in Ukraine that would follow US orders. Seems that these agreements are bound to be broken.

Tell me what I said that is incorrect.

Ok genius, what would you label it as?

Just this stuff in the quote.

Merkel let the cat out of the bag....the 2014 Minsk Agreement was negotiated in bad faith.

It was simply a ploy to allow Ukraine time to build up their military.

Spoken like a true war monger and neocon...

Burns, you refuse to deal with the realities of the situation. I'm not sure why. But even the mainstream media is more truthful than you.

You really need to get a grip.

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

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I saw some information on that which has proven to be false. What is your source?

It might work, If they have ammo to feed them.
Grins

I have been consistanty right and you have been consistanty wrong on all things about the Ukraine invasion.

It's a great example of how confirmation bias drives you to double down with Anti American posts that always prove wrong.

This is the kind of dumschit thinking on display around here.

Guess what, against infantry a 70 year old T-55 is as effective now as it was the day it left the factory. And it’s no more vulnerable to anti-tank missiles than a new T-90m. So if you’re going to use a tank fighting entrenched infantry and it is likely to eventually be lost to an anti-tank missile, it’s better if it is a seventy year old T-55 than a new T-90m.

It’s an example of Russian ingenuity that we would never do because some defense contractor would be afraid it might cause us to order one less brand new fee whiz weapons system. Russia has tens of thousands of Cold War era tanks. May as well put some of them to use where you can. I would be surprised if some of them aren’t drones either. You could convert them to drones nowadays for what amounts to radio shack parts and use them to soak up anti-tank missiles. Leave the crew and the main gun ammo out and it might take half a dozen missiles to make one stop moving.

Keeping 70 year old tanks running will require Russian ingenuity.

Much easier than keeping modern ones going.

LOL.

T-55 is vulnerable to a whole host of old ATMs that can't put a scratch on a modern tank.

Cheap and plentiful RPG-7s will kill it with a single shot.

The Putin Pufters are taking massive amount of copium.

The reports about Russia sending WW2 era tanks to Ukraine are false. Somebody put some footage of T-34 tanks being transported by rail in the internet and said that they were headed to Ukraine. It's some old footage of T-34s being transported to Russia to be used in various monuments and museums.

The ace up the sleeve in the armor game is artillery.
Does Russia have it in place?

Here's the real situation.