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Right, and heaven and earth have not passed away and not all has been fulfilled. Jesus hasn't returned yet. Pray for understanding.

All in ‘the law’ has absolutely been fulfilled. Jesus Himself clearly said so. The verse is clearly about ‘the law’, it’s not about anything else.

Sin is still sin.

Given recent threats and shootings and calling for shootings by certain communities towards Christians - you all might want to keep your head on a swivel at Easter services this weekend.

The source created everything from nothing? Tomato vs tomato. Still magic.

Matter/energy may have always existed, once again displacing the god post-it note.

Only for sinners. Us non-sinners have no concern for such a notion.

So says Raspy as he tries to get the last word in. And even then it's neither true or rational.

And Rasphole checks out of the debate - resorting to bullshit like a petulant child.

Whatever you said..everyone knows you are a lying jerk. LOL!!!

You appear to be suggesting the Hindu principle of Brahman as the 'ground of all existence and being.'

Look, I am positive you will not change and get out of your investment. I am hoping some folks on the sidelines will look into it and see that the mainstream church ran off the rails long ago with their Pauline Christianity.

Jesus was clear in what he taught and he did not need some usurper to come along and hijack his name, but I believe he predicted this would happen, and it did.

Rest assured I'm really not talking to you.

Look, I am positive you will not change and get out of your investment. I am hoping some folks on the sidelines will look into it and see that the mainstream church ran off the rails long ago with their Pauline Christianity.

Jesus was clear in what he taught and he did not need some usurper to come along and hijack his name, but I believe he predicted this would happen, and it did.

Rest assured I'm really not talking to you.

But we’re not talking about Pauline Christianity. ‘You’ brought up Matthew 5:18 yourself, and you intentionally misquoted what Jesus said (first by omission) in order to twist it to fit your belief regarding the Mosaic Law.

And it’s probably darned likely that “some folks on the sidelines” can clearly see that.

It's about Antler Christianity.

Looks like YOU are the usurper of God’s Holy scripture. Here we go yet again with the Paul bashing. I would suggest that you believe Paul’s gospel that was revealed to Paul by the risen Lord Jesus (according to scripture). If not, you are calling our Almighty God a liar.

Paul’s gospel means one must believe Jesus died for your sins, was buried, and then rose from the dead. There is no salvation for one (like you) who rejects Paul. Those who think Paul was a usurper or false apostle are deceived and try to deceive others.

There is currently no gospel of salvation without Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Paul commanded us to copy him and to shun anyone who says otherwise. Anyone is cursed who espouses a different gospel (from Paul’s), Galatians 1:6-9

One has to believe Paul’s gospel of grace to be saved—that Jesus died for our sins and rose from the grave. Paul’s gospel is the only valid gospel, Acts 15:11, and it was decreed by Peter. If you reject Paul, which you obviously do, you must toss out the New Testament, except for Matthew and Jude.

Yep. And He was crystal clear in what He taught regarding the transition from the old covenant (the Law of Moses) to His New Covenant.Nor does He need someone to intentionally misquote what He said in order to twist it to fit their belief.

Antlers, Sometimes the only 'winning' move is choosing not to play......

Brother, it is not possible to move someone to the position we subscribe to when they reject the writings of Paul, Peter and Luke, 17 of the 27 NT books...

If you do not understand the difference between the one who creates as compared to that which is created, it could look like tomato vs. tomato. This is not the case, but one must be able to differentiate in order to grasp the concept. The very basic definition of "create" is to make something from nothing.


Seem as it may you, I am not suggesting that.

16: Let your light shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17: Think not I am come to to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18:For verily I say unto you. till heaven and earth, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.

Jesus has not yet returned. Not all has been fulfilled. And I invite you to post the next 2 verses or at least read them.

The verse that ‘you’ brought up is clearly and specifically talking about the Law of Moses. It’s not talking about Jesus returning or anything else. Jesus was clearly and specifically talking about the Law of Moses. He wasn’t talking about His return or anything else. And He made it crystal clear that All in ‘the law’ has absolutely been fulfilled, by Him.