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Typical leftist, never let the details get in the way of a narrative and look to divide along gender or racial lines at every opportunity.
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"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country."
Robert E. Lee
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Typical leftist, never let the details get in the way of a narrative and look to divide along gender or racial lines at every opportunity. Typical leftist, jumping to conclusions about other people, making false accusations, and showing his ass in the process. Plus, too uptight to have a sense of humor. Easy there, Karen. Might be time to pick up your kids from the Montessori school. P
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Typical leftist, never let the details get in the way of a narrative and look to divide along gender or racial lines at every opportunity. Typical leftist, jumping to conclusions about other people, making false accusations, and showing his ass in the process. Plus, too uptight to have a sense of humor. Easy there, Karen. P I could have been more articulate but I wasn’t talking about you..
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When you quote a fella and make a statement, logic suggests you’re talking about that fella.
Keep in mind that, to the OP, it was today.
It just wasn’t today to me.
If I owe you an apology please consider such as extended.
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Lee signed some papers but the spirit still lives monuments be gone or not
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A sad day in our history. Extremely sad day.
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If the South had won, how long would slavery have persisted?
I know, it wasn’t about slavery, but answer the question.
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Lee signed some papers but the spirit still lives monuments be gone or not honest question.....the spirit of what?....are the bad feelings/blood still prevalent today with the majority or just a few...bob
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If the South had won, how long would slavery have persisted?
I know, it wasn’t about slavery, but answer the question.
Not much longer. Mechanization was on the way. Plantation slavery was inefficient and costly. Maintaining an army, or barn full, of expensive farm animals required a lot of money and effort. No disrespect, but the reality of the matter was economic. It made those people valuable as chattel. They were cared for accordingly. $700 to $1,000 or more per head just to purchase in dollars of the day, not adjusted for inflation. Lincoln's war destroyed the plantation system depriving the South, and former slaves, a peaceful, humane transition. It is unpopular to consider respectful, even warm bonds of familial affection between the "owners" and the "owned" existed, but it was a mutual engagement of give and take to produce livelihood for both parties. The war destroyed the engine of commerce, the know how and sharing that left devastation and resentment that bred hatred and poverty right up until now.
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If the South had won, how long would slavery have persisted?
I know, it wasn’t about slavery, but answer the question.
P I had a great 8th grade history teacher, Coach Campbell. He taught our class like a college course. You took notes, you did not use the book much. He taught us one of the sad things about the civil war was that it would not have been too many years when slavery would cost as much or more than hiring people. Which is how agriculture was conducted for many years after the war. Slavery would have became economically unfeasible as well as morally unexceptible. Less than a hundred years later mechanical devices like cotton pickers put a lot of people out of that type of work. Even without all the theories I think there could have been a negotiated ending to slavery without the resorting to civil war if that was really what the federals really wanted.
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You fellas need to take in consideration the devastating impact of the Boll Weevil on the cotton industry! The weevil all but collapsed c production as it marched across the cotton belt putting hundreds of thousands of laborers and farmers out of work. This as much or more than mechanization pushed large populations north and west. You can follow my family as they move across the South to Texas trying to escape the weevil.
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April 10, 1865: General Robert E. Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia to General Ulysses S. Grant, effectively ending the Civil War. Actually, General Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia at Appomattox Courthouse, Virginia on Sunday, April 9th, 1865, not April 10th. This was not the end of the war as Lee only surrendered his immediate command, not the entire Confederate military. Having said that, it was the major Confederate army in the east and without it there was little hope of the Confederacy surviving. The last Confederate military department, the Trans-Mississippi Department was surrendered at Galveston, Texas on 02 June 1865 (negotiated at New Orleans 26 May, but not signed until 02 June by Lt. Gen. Edmund Kirby-Smith at Galveston).
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