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This already exists and it's called the 10mm magnum. Much longer brass than a regular 10mm brass.
I have a thousand 10mm magnum brass and 200 grain swift a-frames.
It's going in a model winchester 92 trapper carbine. Can you video tape yourself twirling that thing like John Wayne did in the movies?
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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This already exists and it's called the 10mm magnum. Much longer brass than a regular 10mm brass.
I have a thousand 10mm magnum brass and 200 grain swift a-frames.
It's going in a model winchester 92 trapper carbine. Can you video tape yourself twirling that thing like John Wayne did in the movies? Only if Leonardo dicaprio and Robert Redford are there in scene to protect me. Indians don't last very long in westerns.
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Can't help myself, schiddting on the floor again.
Look at the numbers.
It's a lever action brush round in a new box.
Not a distinguished one like a 45-70 either.
If my state required that box,I might be interested.
It don't, I'm not.
Still have my childhood 30-30. If I want those ballistics it will provide them, with style.
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I’m going to beat everyone to the punch and say it for the 24hourcampfire braintrust. “If our boys would’ve had this in ‘Nam them gooks would’ve never had a chance and we would’ve won the war” If our boys would've had this in Afghanistan them raghaids would never had a chance and we would have won the war!
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It looks a pretty good way to run cast through an AR. I still need cast up a batch of 200g Lee. 358s for the 350. I'm going to go with a softer alloy I got that's about bhn 10. I'll cast them, powder coat and then put a check on them and see if they shoot well that soft. They should expand pretty well at around 1900 fps.
The 40 cal would give an even better starting diameter. A 230g flat nose cast with a check would probably hit pretty hard. A 200g xtp would be a varmint bomb at rifle speeds. I prefer to run them at only 1150 from my handguns. It gives me some expansion without enough to really cut penetration.
Someone on the fire put one through a bears head up close a few years back iirc.
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.400 legends of the fall. 24hour campfire productions. A movie full of no action, paper target tight groups (yes there's exactly 5 shots), infinite whining about miniscule rifle design and ballistics And a little bit of trolling........
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.400 legends of the fall. 24hour campfire productions. A movie full of no action, paper target tight groups (yes there's exactly 5 shots), infinite whining about miniscule rifle design and ballistics And a little bit of trolling........ Starring Alec Baldwin? 🫢
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.400 legends of the fall. 24hour campfire productions. A movie full of no action, paper target tight groups (yes there's exactly 5 shots), infinite whining about miniscule rifle design and ballistics And a little bit of trolling........ Starring Alec Baldwin? 🫢 Score composed and performed by Roy Clark.
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This already exists and it's called the 10mm magnum. Much longer brass than a regular 10mm brass. This is more like a 10mm Maximum.
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.400 legends of the fall. 24hour campfire productions. A movie full of no action, paper target tight groups (yes there's exactly 5 shots), infinite whining about miniscule rifle design and ballistics And a little bit of trolling........ Starring Alec Baldwin? 🫢 No, the bad guy's name will actually be Alec Baldwin. Gonna send big stick down to LA, to audition for the Alec Baldwin part. Gotta check with Rick bin, if he'll be stick's talent agent. Mule deer will make sure all the blanks are loaded within .02 of a grain, and that everybody on set is eating homemade pot pies.
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It's going to prove quite difficult to get a 400 Legend to feed reliably from a high capacity double stack magazine. Been there, done that. 20 years ago.
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Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.
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I love the 350L for Ohio deer due to our restrictions, but the 400L makes no sense. It's not going to add range, or needed killing power for deer, and there are better tools if you need a 'hammer'.
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The 350 ‘almost’?… shoulda been a real 35 (357-358), not a 9mm. That turned me against it from the jump, as the 357 AR work had been done. As I already have 6.8 SPC stuff, the 400 makes more sense….especially if you want to suppress…..it’s all short range anyway, so why not? Stronger bolts than bushmasters, less recoil, and seems to have more juice and possibilities than the .355. Maybe not, but we shall see.
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They should neck it down to 6.8
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Very interested in this one despite it headspacing on the case mouth (bit of intimidation factor there)... simply because it will likely work with most or all projectiles used for 10mm auto, something I already have in contrast to the 350L. I'll let the early adopters verify the feeding in an AR though I have little concern it will be an issue. It looks like one can expect a 200grain bullet to go 1800 - 2000 fps from a 16" barrel, nice for up-close shots dealing lots of trauma with less-expensive projectiles. Ballistic calculator indicates it will take somewhere between 75 - 125 yards for a 12.5" grendel to overtake it in terms of energy (123gr SST); I did not compare sectional densities but with those weights I don't think it matters.
At around 250 yards, the above 400L projectile is projected to have the energy of a mid-power 10mm load at the muzzle... not bad.
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It's going to prove quite difficult to get a 400 Legend to feed reliably from a high capacity double stack magazine. Been there, done that. 20 years ago.
Tony Rumore Tromix No one here has had more experience with mags than Tony. A solution to no problem and as has been stated will mostly just cut from the 350 sales, so no idea what Winny was thinking. Also, having tested a lot of bullets for my former employer, especially 10/40 back in the day, I don’t even think 10mm monometal bullets will take those impact velocities at closer ranges. I have been playing around with the Wilson 300 hamr and have to say it is the perfect deer/pig ar caliber to me for 250 and in. The 130 Speer hot cor does a number on them, feeds well and is light on the shoulder.
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I have been playing around with the Wilson 300 hamr and have to say it is the perfect deer/pig ar caliber to me for 250 and in. The 130 Speer hot cor does a number on them, feeds well and is light on the shoulder. I agree! Darn straight wall rules!
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I’m just happy this might mean more .40 cal bullets to shoot in sabots for my .45 Encore.
Also, .45 cal muzzleloaders have been using the .40 xtp for a while at 2k+ speeds. Seem to work ok.
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Exactly what Vabowhntr said. My 45cal Knight muzzy pushes the 40cal 200g XTP at 2200fps. Kills deer just fine for the last 15 years
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