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Originally Posted by krp
All I have to say is I have a personal relationship with Christ/God through the Holy Spirit... spiritual faith...

And I'm attacked with other people's bizarre projections their mind made up... things I've never thought of, words I never used before, like ascend and transcend... gothicism.

These are phycological issues, not religious/faith issues.

Kent


Martyr much?

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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by krp
All I have to say is I have a personal relationship with Christ/God through the Holy Spirit... spiritual faith...
I believe you. Wholeheartedly. And it’s unique to you, and to you’re life, as is any personal relationship.


Do you or do you not believe that Christianity is whatever it is to the individual and fully unique and different, at least in potoential, for each believer?

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Originally Posted by krp
And I'm attacked with other people's bizarre projections their mind made up... things I've never thought of, words I never used before, like ascend and transcend... gothicism.
Or “gnosticism.” Wtf is that…?


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by IZH27
Examples haven’t been given.
Sure they have. But you choose to ignore them. You say they’re not specific enough for you, or they’re not literal enough for you, or they’re not detailed enough for you. And then in the next breath you make it crystal clear that regardless of any examples that anyone gives, by their words, that they don’t, nor won’t, mean anything to you because you didn’t observe it for yourself.

They “may as well be trying to prove that pink unicorns exist,” (your words).


How has your life changed the community in which you live or the lives of those with whom you interact on a regular basis?

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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by krp
And I'm attacked with other people's bizarre projections their mind made up... things I've never thought of, words I never used before, like ascend and transcend... gothicism.
Or “gnosticism.” Wtf is that…?


Gnostism is a heresy that was experienced in the early church and continually pops it’s head up in history. One of the tenants of Gnosticism is special direct revelation.

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Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by krp
All I have to say is I have a personal relationship with Christ/God through the Holy Spirit... spiritual faith...

And I'm attacked with other people's bizarre projections their mind made up... things I've never thought of, words I never used before, like ascend and transcend... gothicism.

These are phycological issues, not religious/faith issues.

Kent


Martyr much?

Project much...

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Originally Posted by krp
Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by krp
All I have to say is I have a personal relationship with Christ/God through the Holy Spirit... spiritual faith...

And I'm attacked with other people's bizarre projections their mind made up... things I've never thought of, words I never used before, like ascend and transcend... gothicism.

These are phycological issues, not religious/faith issues.

Kent


Martyr much?

Project much...

Kent

Seriously? I have absolutely no feelings of being martyred or put up on. Nothing you have said to me has been offensive in the least.

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How has your life changed the community in which you live or the lives of those with whom you interact on a regular basis?

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Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by krp
Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by krp
All I have to say is I have a personal relationship with Christ/God through the Holy Spirit... spiritual faith...

And I'm attacked with other people's bizarre projections their mind made up... things I've never thought of, words I never used before, like ascend and transcend... gothicism.

These are phycological issues, not religious/faith issues.

Kent


Martyr much?

Project much...

Kent

Seriously? I have absolutely no feelings of being murdered or put up on. Nothing you have said to me has been expensive in the least.

Huh?

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Originally Posted by IZH27
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Originally Posted by krp
All I have to say is I have a personal relationship with Christ/God through the Holy Spirit... spiritual faith...
I believe you. Wholeheartedly. And it’s unique to you, and to you’re life, as is any personal relationship.
Do you or do you not believe that Christianity is whatever it is to the individual and fully unique and different, at least in potoential, for each believer?
Relationship vs Religion

krp describes a relationship. A healthy and vibrant relationship.

It ‘seems’ as though your relationship is with a book, and with organized church history, and with organized church doctrine, doxology, liturgy, creeds and catechisms, etc..

Again, if ‘that’ gets your juices flowing, then more power to ya’.


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Originally Posted by IZH27
How has your life changed the community in which you live or the lives of those with whom you interact on a regular basis?
You want examples…? Examples that ‘you’ deem to be specific and literal and detailed…?

Even though you’ve admittedly already drawn your own conclusions…? Even though you’ve already made it crystal clear that the examples that others give, by their words, are and will be discounted by you because you didn’t observe them yourself…?


As has been asked multiple times here (and not only by me), based upon the above, what would be the point of giving you examples…?


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Do you or do you not believe that Christianity is whatever it is to the individual and fully unique and different, at least in potoential, for each believer?

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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by IZH27
How has your life changed the community in which you live or the lives of those with whom you interact on a regular basis?
You want examples…? Examples that ‘you’ deem to be specific and literal and detailed…?

Even though you’ve admittedly already drawn your own conclusions…? Even though you’ve already made it crystal clear that the examples that others give, by their words, are and will be discounted by you because you didn’t observe them yourself…?


As has been asked multiple times here (and not only by me), based upon the above, what would be the point of giving you examples…?

If you are living the Christian life that you claim to be the norm for the early church, something that you seem to have discovered again, what impact have you had to change the lives of the people around you and the community in which you live in the same way that you project the church being responsible for doing?

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Originally Posted by IZH27
Do you or do you not believe that Christianity is whatever it is to the individual and fully unique and different, at least in potoential, for each believer?
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...cs/18367906/re-christianity#Post18367906


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Well, I don't have a couch dude to testify I'm the only one who lives in the spirit, or a random checkout clerk proclaiming I'm righteous... that's for sure...

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You originated this thread. A Primary premise of the original post is life in the Spirit.

How has your life, lived in the Spirit, changn the community in which you live or the lives of those with whom you interact on a regular basis?

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Originally Posted by antlers
Do y’all think that Jesus meant for it to be a ‘way of life’ or just another system of faith and worship (a religion).

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Originally Posted by IZH27
At least ringman gave examples of the experiences that support his view. You, KRP and Mr Clark give nothing but words telling people the way that it’s supposed to be.
Originally Posted by krp
Do you know Ringman, have you witnessed his experiences? Or do you read his WORDS telling people the way it's supposed to be?
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Anyone that cites ringman as an authority on anything at all is grasping for a credibility that quite frankly they don't deserve...the man is a bigger clown than both burns and that turd iskra. He is a self aggrandising fuckwit. Added, sorry, I forgot pompous and judgemental.
Originally Posted by IZH27
He may be and I personally don’t believe that those things happened. However, he was straightforward to actually give an actual account of what he believes.
True to your words, his examples meant nothing to you.


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