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Something new and bizarre to me followed me back from a pawn shop yesterday. It’s a Rem 700 marked “US” above the serial number. The receiver, one piece base, and bolt all have the SN on them and matching. McMillan woodland camo stock, Leupold 10x with mil-dots.
It looks like an M40a1, but from my reading over the past 12 hours it seems there have been lots of repro’s.
The SN starts with an “E” Prefix. I’ll get a picture or two up shortly.
Does anyone here follow or collect these rifles?
Much appreciated
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Were the M40 receivers clip slotted? I believe the Army M24 had the clip slot.
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M40's were M24's were not
ETA- I'd bet the farm it's a clone. I guess it could be a legit m40A1 that was returned to CMP and later auctioned off, but I seriously doubt the owner would be the type to have to pawn his rifle later on down the road.
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Thanks, faulty memory here.
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Since the date of manufacture was removed when the barrel was changed out. I’m not sure when the M40’s were discontinued. The serial number dating isn’t exact but: I’m on my phone rather than a computer so I can’t get you the thread address but this info from another 24 hour post might help
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Thanks Bugger. I’m googling wildly and it takes me to lots of forums with lots of contradicting information.
Figured I’d heap myself upon the altar of those more knowledgeable.
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A well executed clone could be a very nice piece indeed.
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M40's were M24's were not
ETA- I'd bet the farm it's a clone. I guess it could be a legit m40A1 that was returned to CMP and later auctioned off, but I seriously doubt the owner would be the type to have to pawn his rifle later on down the road. True, but someone's inheriting relative might be the type to pawn a treasure for a pittance.
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M40's were M24's were not
ETA- I'd bet the farm it's a clone. I guess it could be a legit m40A1 that was returned to CMP and later auctioned off, but I seriously doubt the owner would be the type to have to pawn his rifle later on down the road. True, but someone's inheriting relative might be the type to pawn a treasure for a pittance. Agree, but I doubt there's more than a dozen true M40A1's in the wild. A well executed clone could be a very nice piece indeed. The Leupold isn't the correct scope, but that doesn't mean the rifle isn't a well done clone Thanks Bugger. I’m googling wildly and it takes me to lots of forums with lots of contradicting information.
Figured I’d heap myself upon the altar of those more knowledgeable. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/m40a1-build-guide.107/If there is anyone that has a real m40A1 it's this guy https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/need-help-deciding-m40a1-build-configurations.7153492/
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Lots of good info, especially that last link. Thanks.
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I’d love to see some photos of your clone! I always wanted one myself, but haven’t ever been up to parting with the cash. Congratulations!
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Very nice rifle! Definitely a clone.
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someone went to a lot of effort in cloning this thing! So the "US" marked receiver isn't real? Just someone etched the US on there and had the rear bridge machined for stripper clips?
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also, I want to say thank you all again for the time and information your spending/sharing. I'm not a member on sniper's hide, long range only, etc etc, which may have been a better landing spot for this sort of query. I was a bit sheepish about joining some of the hyper specific forums on the topic as I truly know nothing.
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someone went to a lot of effort in cloning this thing! So the "US" marked receiver isn't real? Just someone etched the US on there and had the rear bridge machined for stripper clips? Definitely not a real US Property M40. First giveaway is the E-series action, long shroud, and then the textured grip areas of the McMillan stock. The scope isn’t right, this rings aren’t right either. Most all real M40A1s were a smear pattern and slick in the grip areas. That said, this is still a VERY nice rifle.
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The biggest giveaway is the stock. The barrel isn't correct as well. M40A1s used Schneider rough finished barrels. The Marines like the rough finish on the barrels because it held paint. The mount looks like the correct mount but its a repo. That mount is still worth a good bit probably $300-$400 There are a few builders that specialize in correct clones. I used Raven Rifles https://ravenrifles.wordpress.com (he is now retired) because he's well respected in the clone community and lives close by I had a hard time with shipping some of the parts across the country to have mine built. My M40A1 was built on one of the return stocks. Here is a pic from the other thread discussing m40s
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Thanks man. I bit the bullet and signed up on M40rifle.com , those dudes seem pretty intense on the topic. There are apparently some "E" prefixed receivers used around 1996 according to the folks sharing information over there, but I'm with you. This is most likely a pretty well done clone. Now to grab a case of black hills match ammo and let it to what it does best.
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