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I have never killed a Buffalo, lion or elephant with an empty rifle and I am always loaded in the chamber in the African bush..I always carry a round in the chamber when actually hunting. You will not get a shot on many ocassions with a round not in the chamber, you will be a stumbling, fumbling, dork trying to load a rifle in a tight spot or on a disapearing animal..ONly on national TV and apparantly the internet can everyone sit and talk and wait and load before they take that broadside perfect shot..Where I hunt its a bit more hectic than that..You have a window of opertunity and you had better take advantage of it...A gun pointed at nobody is a safe gun.
Never loaded in the camp, home, car, or in the saddle scabbard.
common since should be a perfect guide but I see from 42 posts this has not been the case.
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Ray, agree mostly with you except "A gun pointed at nobody is a safe gun"... that simply isn't true as Remington concluded forty years ago that 100% safe gun handling is never possible.
I only keep one up the spout when I'm on the trail of something, until then the chamber is empty but then I mostly hunt alone so it's a moot point.
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... The Cliff Notes version is: about a 75/25 ratio of guys who hunt with one vs. guys who don't... ... What was the percentage for the "It depends on the situation" camp?
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Good question- I don't know. It would be WAY up there, though. Personally, if I'm putting the rifle in a position where it could be mechanically dismembered, like in a scabbard on a horse or climbing up a cliff or something, it will be unchambered. I'm guess that's true of EVERYONE. So I'd say the 'it depends...' camp is virtually everyone, ultimatly.
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Even a two-year-old can see the problem with this. Is this dead enough? Now, let's argue about something else. Hey, I know, "Jeff, I didn't know Oregon was an island in the Aleutians." (You are west of me, right?)
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Guess I better change it to "West of "almost all" of you, Oregon"!
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Personally, if I'm putting the rifle in a position where it could be mechanically dismembered, like in a scabbard on a horse or climbing up a cliff or something, it will be unchambered. Say, south-of-me-Jeff, I thought that BLR was bullet-proof? Sort of a pun there!
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You damn cantankerous "westerners"! :-)
Ironbender, I'm talking situations with big force multipliers- like cliffs and 1500-lb horses- where the literal dismemberment of the rifle is a possibility. Not walking round in the woods...
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How many ways are there to beat a dead horse...
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I have never killed a Buffalo, lion or elephant with an empty rifle and I am always loaded in the chamber in the African bush..I always carry a round in the chamber when actually hunting. You will not get a shot on many ocassions with a round not in the chamber, you will be a stumbling, fumbling, dork trying to load a rifle in a tight spot or on a disapearing animal..ONly on national TV and apparantly the internet can everyone sit and talk and wait and load before they take that broadside perfect shot..Where I hunt its a bit more hectic than that..You have a window of opertunity and you had better take advantage of it...A gun pointed at nobody is a safe gun.
Never loaded in the camp, home, car, or in the saddle scabbard.
common since should be a perfect guide but I see from 42 posts this has not been the case. In the right situation and with the right game not only will you not get a shell chambered you�ll be dead. I�m no snack.
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How many ways are there to beat a dead horse... I don't know, I'll get back to you when it's good and beat! :-) -jeff
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Beings how I mostly bow hunt for big game, I'd have to go with an "it depends". I usually have an arrow nocked though, but am rarely at full draw Most of my "gun" big game hunting is done with a shotgun. I rarely go, but when I do, it is usually a drive situation. Most shots are at running deer who are already aware of you and are trying to get the hell out of dodge. Racking a slide on a shotgun makes little difference in time or noise. Most times in this situation, I go cold. Since this type of hunting appeals very little to me, it is very rare that I go. On the even rarer occasion where I am still hunting with a gun, I am generally hot. Depends a lot on the terrain and conditions. If I am likely to walk up on an unaware deer and I am hunting alone I will carry hot. At any rate, I rarely gun hunt. The season in OH is a week long, limited to shotguns/muzzle-loaders/revolvers, and generally filled with a bunch of degenerates out blasting at any thing that moves. This is not the type of hunting that I prefer. I can bow hunt for four months at deer that are usually unpressured. I am familiar enough with the property that I hunt that I usually have all the deer named. Gun season here just does not do much for me. Now, before I catch hell for that opinion, I will state that if I could gun hunt the same way that I bow hunt, I would probably prefer that. BTW Jeff, look how far WEST of you I am.
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How many ways are there to beat a dead horse... I don't know, I'll get back to you when it's good and beat! :-) -jeff Carry on... The humor is Priceless........
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In much of B.C. grizzlies are common. Suprised grizzlies don't take kindly to being suprised. Also, they aren't known for always warning you of their intentions.
An unloaded rifle is, indeed, a stick.
Sticks aren't much good at dissuading charging bears.
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Nice to see this thread still going, and going, and going.....
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i keep one in the chamber for the same reason i keep a 45 auto cocked and locked on the nite stand by my bed you might not have time to chamber a round if a nice buck apears and only gives a spilt second to shoot or a armed intruder breaks in your home you better hope you don't have to wast time chambering a round
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Yeah, but I'm shootin blanks! So it doesn't really matter.
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I'm a very inexperianced hunter, but here is my thoughts on it. I have three different situations 1st. If I'm concentrated in my hunt for non-dangerous game, I would always have one in the chamber unless I was climbing something with the safety on.
2nd. If I'm just lazily wandering the woods content weather i find game or not, I would not have one in the chamber and it would be on safe
3rd. If I was to hunt in dangerous game areas, I would have my rifle off of safe but an empty chamber. This is because cocking the rifle would be second nature to me where is turning the safety off I would more likely forget. I would instinctively load the chamber. Turning the safety off wouldn't be as instinctive to me.
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