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"What a Friend we have in Jesus."
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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C.S. Lewis asserted that “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain.” He said that “We can ignore even pleasure. But pain insists upon being attended to.” Poetic, but nothing else.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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"What a Friend we have in Jesus." He dead.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Nobody is forcing you to open these threads and respond. ditto, and right back at ya (the bulk of your response is just outrageous - you need to try and control yourself) Your lot are the ones dumping their crap in my letterbox, and persecuting those that don't comply with your lot's fairy tales. Are you retarded or did you suffer head trauma? You are a disingenuous lying son of a BITCH! Aces mousehunterwitha9mm, is a typical garden variety douchebag, nothing more, nothing less. A Wood Tick has more class.
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For some people, they were goin' along, kinda minding their own business, they maybe hadn't given God a thought in many years, or maybe ever, and then then got that call, they felt that pain, they got that bad news, and they realized that their life would never be the same again. And they found themselves looking up ~ and then they found themselves face to face with a God they'd maybe never believed in before, or that maybe they’d abandoned when they were younger. For them, that pain was the megaphone that got their attention and they drew near to God.
And for some people, their story is the opposite of that. Pain and suffering in the world, or maybe their personal experience with pain and suffering, caused them to doubt God, it's the thing that caused them to abandon faith. For these folks, that pain was the megaphone that pushed em’ further away from God.
It’s interesting that people with similar personal experiences with pain and suffering can arrive at very different conclusions about faith and God as a result.
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For some people, they were goin' along, kinda minding their own business, they maybe hadn't given God a thought in many years, or maybe ever, and then then got that call, they felt that pain, they got that bad news, and they realized that their life would never be the same again. And they found themselves looking up ~ and then they found themselves face to face with a God they'd maybe never believed in before, or that maybe they’d abandoned when they were younger. For them, that pain was the megaphone that got their attention and they drew near to God.
And for some people, their story is the opposite of that. Pain and suffering in the world, or maybe their personal experience with pain and suffering, caused them to doubt God, it's the thing that caused them to abandon faith. For these folks, that pain was the megaphone that pushed em’ further away from God.
It’s interesting that people with similar personal experiences with pain and suffering can arrive at very different conclusions about faith and God as a result. Pain has got nothing to do with it. The fact is that there is no evidence of a god - why throw a god into the equation? It does nothing. Better off trying Panadol or something.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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There a few hogs here that have had a lot of pearls tossed to them. Gotta ask. Who is smarter? The pig rooting at pearls, or the person that tossed the valuables to the pig? Now there’s a conundrum…
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There a few hogs here that have had a lot of pearls tossed to them. Gotta ask. Who is smarter? The pig rooting at pearls, or the person that tossed the valuables to the pig? Now there’s a conundrum… Biblical metaphors are empowering. LOL!!!
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Biblical metaphors are empowering. LOL!!! ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/232515.gif)
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The fact is that there is no evidence of a god - why throw a god into the equation? It does nothing. Better off trying Panadol or something. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/232856.jpeg)
“When debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
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RF. Concerned. Hang in there. The feast season is approaching.
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Again,
Hard to seek God when one thinks they are a god.
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C.S. Lewis asserted that “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain.” He said that “We can ignore even pleasure. But pain insists upon being attended to.” There are no atheists in foxholes.
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For some people, they were goin' along, kinda minding their own business, they maybe hadn't given God a thought in many years, or maybe ever, and then then got that call, they felt that pain, they got that bad news, and they realized that their life would never be the same again. And they found themselves looking up ~ and then they found themselves face to face with a God they'd maybe never believed in before, or that maybe they’d abandoned when they were younger. For them, that pain was the megaphone that got their attention and they drew near to God.
And for some people, their story is the opposite of that. Pain and suffering in the world, or maybe their personal experience with pain and suffering, caused them to doubt God, it's the thing that caused them to abandon faith. For these folks, that pain was the megaphone that pushed em’ further away from God.
It’s interesting that people with similar personal experiences with pain and suffering can arrive at very different conclusions about faith and God as a result. Have you been reading, A Grief Observed?
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No. But I am interested in de-conversion stories, especially of those who’ve walked away from faith because of pain and suffering in the world.
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Has anyone who walked away then walked into a world of less pain and suffering?
I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill
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No. But I am interested in de-conversion stories, especially of those who’ve walked away from faith because of pain and suffering in the world. Two books that CS Lewis wrote come to mind. One is a grief observed, which is him dealing with the death of his wife, after only a few years into that marriage. The other is surprised by joy which depicts his life as he moved away from the faith then back to the faith.
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There are no atheists in foxholes. Yes there are - they're not the ones muttering into their hands.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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There are plenty of people who have "seen the light" and left the faith having no good reason to return to it. Reality is what it is.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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No. But I am interested in de-conversion stories, especially of those who’ve walked away from faith because of pain and suffering in the world. This is a result of brainwashing in school. They teach evolution instead of the Truth of God's Word about from where suffering comes. God claims He, The Infinite One, cursed the universe bring suffering and death.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
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