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Picked up a nice commercial Oberndorf B in 8x57IS today. It’s a real Daisy!!!! Great shooter! ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/kMsWL8Fb/1-B784237-24-A3-4-C2-E-9831-6-DEF984-C067-B.jpg)
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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
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Handsome! What vintage (SN based) and is it all original & matching? Receiver, barrel & butt plate nomenclature? So far a great "teaser"!  Thanks for sharing & Best! John
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Handsome! What vintage (SN based) and is it all original & matching? Receiver, barrel & butt plate nomenclature? So far a great "teaser"! Thanks for sharing & Best! John Numbers match. Has WAffenfabrik Mauser (WM) gutta percha or whatever it’s made of buttplate. Not the Mauser Banner buttplate. Has a 5 digit SN. I’m speculating either a late pre-wwar one maybe???? I was told 1914 has B crown and U crown proofs. No G proof I can find. Nice bore and sound wood (looks like Italian walnut?). Left side of Receiver in front of thumb cut out marked waffenfabrik Oberndorf A/N. No Mauser Banner on top of receiver ring.
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Ok, appears to be 1913 vintage. I happened upon a SN listing. This rifle is 75XXX range. I know that postwar very few 8x57 cartridge rifles were produced. Treaty of Versailles stuff. So the 8x60 was produced. It’s definitely an 8x57.
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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This picture puts a big smile on my face. Congratulations!
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Very nice. Though younger I wish I had your eyes.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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Very nice. Though younger I wish I had your eyes. Thanks Ed! But they are getting worse.
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Nice looking rifle you got there.
Looks handy.
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Very nice. Though younger I wish I had your eyes. Thanks Ed! But they are getting worse.Apparently not. Nice choice.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Very nice. Though younger I wish I had your eyes. Thanks Ed! But they are getting worse.Apparently not. Nice choice. 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks fellas! Considering adding a Mclaughlin metal works American hunter cocking piece aperture sight.
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Thanks fellas! Considering adding a Mclaughlin metal works American hunter cocking piece aperture sight. Ya gotta put a FFP 5-25x56mm scope on that if'n ya wanna hit anything, Bob. It's 2023, man!  Nice rifle...downright elegant!
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Proper that. Looking at aMcLaughlin for my daughter’s Mauser build.
The way life should be.
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Proper that. Looking at aMcLaughlin for my daughter’s Mauser build. 👍👍👍👍
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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Thanks fellas! Considering adding a Mclaughlin metal works American hunter cocking piece aperture sight. Ya gotta put a FFP 5-25x56mm scope on that if'n ya wanna hit anything, Bob. It's 2023, man! Nice rifle...downright elegant! Thanks compadre
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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Thanks for the additional info concerning your Mauser (capitalized as speaking of the specific Oberndorf Factory product versus non-capitalized "generic" mauser pattern).
Read + visuals as seeming A-OK for Oberndorf Sporter apparent originality! Expecting a hinged floorplate and if not, possibly indicative of a military sporter Model "C", but that "WM" butt plate versus military plate also suggestive of "B" Model as correct.
The 8x57 presumptively correct actually into the early Twenties as Armistice melded into Versailles Treaty & sanctions a creature of early Twenties! About 1932 the "new Fascist Face of Fatherland" emerged. Abandoning the Treaty and returning to 8mm military chambering production, but fewer in commercial context due to strong rearming emphasis!
The first thing I look for in a Obie Sporter is the angular tear-shaped bolt handle. Can't distinguish that but 'assuming 'there'... Large "originality hurdle" past! Next, all matching numbers as more than just "icing" to collectors. It's the realm of - all original - the larger bucks formula.
The above suggestion to D&T for scope... Your rifle, your call! But also your responsibility for care and preservation of rifle as Obie "art" when intact. Oh yes, and depreciate value by perhaps 50%. Assuming whatever aperture sight, to be "swappable" back to original... Go for it. Otherwise back to 50% valuation possibly!
The absence of receiver ring nomenclature or factory pattern adornment is common and while such collector Viagra, absence no condemnation at all.
Whew~
Congraats!
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Congratulations, that is a very nice rifle.
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