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If one watches you can catch good stuff cheap sometimes. like a while back smith Shields were ran one sale like $300 or less and my experience with them they have been perfectly reliable and plenty accurate..


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Originally Posted by plumbum
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I'm more concerned about why you are concerned about having it confiscated?

1. If you have to shoot someone, they are going to take it for evidence and that’s fact. Whether you ever get it back is another question

Trials and appeals can take decades.

You guys must shoot a lot of people.....

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Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
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Why not have both?

Number one will surprise you:


Price is a surprise. But I’ve never not liked CZs

I’ll have to wait a few more years though. Not on the handgun roster, then there’s the CA firearms excise tax…

I saw the CZ P10c at Scheels in Colorado Springs for $329. I figured it was a misprint, but nope, that was the correct price.

That's a lot of gun for not very much money.


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Originally Posted by 78CJ
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I'm more concerned about why you are concerned about having it confiscated?

1. If you have to shoot someone, they are going to take it for evidence and that’s fact. Whether you ever get it back is another question

Trials and appeals can take decades.

You guys must shoot a lot of people.....

We are Raylan Givens.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by 78CJ
Originally Posted by plumbum
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Originally Posted by 78CJ
I'm more concerned about why you are concerned about having it confiscated?

1. If you have to shoot someone, they are going to take it for evidence and that’s fact. Whether you ever get it back is another question

Trials and appeals can take decades.

You guys must shoot a lot of people.....

Haha, here’s some sage advice. If you carry it then you must be prepared to use it, if you are prepared to use it when the need arises then you better be prepared to lose it when you do.



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Originally Posted by Verylargeboots
What value do you place on your life?

^^^This^^^


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Originally Posted by Garandimal
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So whats the best choice? Have a cheap weapon to potentially lose to law enforcement or a expensive better made maybe more accurate weapon to lose to law enforcement? Need a new carry weapon, trying to make a proper decision. Thanks

Get a Glock, and then another one just like it.

In case the first one ends up in an evidence locker for a coupla years.

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Buy two decent rigs.

Hell you should have a backup no matter what.

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Originally Posted by tikkanut
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Nothing at all wrong with a Taurus.




You'll get different opinions on that thought


Well yeah, I don't give a fuque. Let's hear them.


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Your asking the wrong question.

The ones that matter are:

1. Do I shoot it well, especially fast?
2. Is it reliable with the ammo I'll carry in it?

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Originally Posted by goalie
Your asking the wrong question.

The ones that matter are:

1. Do I shoot it well, especially fast?
2. Is it reliable with the ammo I'll carry in it?
I think what he's essentially asking is: "Once I've identified several handguns in my collection (and/or in the case at the gun store) that pass those two tests, should I avoid carrying the most expensive (preferring instead the least expensive) due to concerns over it's being held as evidence for who knows how many years, and under unknown conditions (e.g., damp locker room in the basement, and/or roughly handled by whomever is assigned the task), if I should ever need to use it?"

My answer is: If you had a finely crafted custom and engraved family heirloom that passes those two tests (or were considering buying a custom along the same lines for carry), you are likely wiser to instead choose a Glock to carry that also passes those two tests even if you have to go out and buy yourself one.

Although I will admit to having carried an Ed Brown Kobra Carry for years, which is a fairly expensive semi-custom, even if not covered in engraved nickel, etc., nor a family heirloom.

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The $500 extra or so that you spend on the more expensive pistol will pale in comparison on what you will pay a lawyer to defend your shooting someone, even if it is in self-defense.

Go ahead and pony up the money for something reliable, the few extra dollars won't matter much if you are injured because the cheap pistol didn't work.

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Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by 78CJ
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by 78CJ
I'm more concerned about why you are concerned about having it confiscated?

1. If you have to shoot someone, they are going to take it for evidence and that’s fact. Whether you ever get it back is another question

Trials and appeals can take decades.

You guys must shoot a lot of people.....

Haha, here’s some sage advice. If you carry it then you must be prepared to use it, if you are prepared to use it when the need arises then you better be prepared to lose it when you do.

If I had to shoot to defend myself the last thing I am going to GAF about is what happened to my gun, YMMV I guess......This isn't the WW West. Don't get me wrong, I wish it was but it isn't.

There's a lot of pretend wishing around here with no regard for reality.

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Polymer frame autoloading pistols can be rolled out of a factory like shelling peas. Pretty much everybody making them has figured out the formula. I bought a Ruger Security 9 new for $300 and it included two magazines. It does what a 9mm autoloading pistol is supposed to do. I paid a bit more for a Glock 43. It's much more compact and also does what a 9mm autoloading pistol is supposed to do.

My opinion, there's lots of polymer framed 9mm pistols out there that do what they're supposed to do for about $400. You can pay a lot more and not be armed any better.

But if something catches your eye and it costs big bucks, there's nothing wrong with buying it just because you like it.

I recently paid $760 for a 1960s S&W Model 10 just because I liked it. But if the wolf ever shows up at my door I'll grab the $300 Ruger Security 9.

Some guns are tools. Some are just pretty things to admire.

I like both types for different reasons.

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Originally Posted by 78CJ
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by 78CJ
I'm more concerned about why you are concerned about having it confiscated?

1. If you have to shoot someone, they are going to take it for evidence and that’s fact. Whether you ever get it back is another question

Trials and appeals can take decades.

You guys must shoot a lot of people.....



No. Just a bunch of cheap bastards.


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REAL HAWKEYE, pretty much nailed the intent of my question. i don't have a lot of money, so must spend it wisely. will need a quality
holster also, it adds up quick. thanks to all for the responses.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Polymer frame autoloading pistols can be rolled out of a factory like shelling peas. Pretty much everybody making them has figured out the formula. I bought a Ruger Security 9 new for $300 and it included two magazines. It does what a 9mm autoloading pistol is supposed to do. I paid a bit more for a Glock 43. It's much more compact and also does what a 9mm autoloading pistol is supposed to do.

My opinion, there's lots of polymer framed 9mm pistols out there that do what they're supposed to do for about $400. You can pay a lot more and not be armed any better.

But if something catches your eye and it costs big bucks, there's nothing wrong with buying it just because you like it.

I recently paid $760 for a 1960s S&W Model 10 just because I liked it. But if the wolf ever shows up at my door I'll grab the $300 Ruger Security 9.

Some guns are tools. Some are just pretty things to admire.

I like both types for different reasons.
Exactly.

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