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The only thing I never wanted was a .270. Not because of anybody, but because I had an '06 and a 7x57 and just felt no need. I have two .270s, one because it was a Wal-mart left-over screaming deal on a Ruger #1, the other because it belonged to Dad's good friend and neighbor, and I bought it from his widow. And both have proven me correct. I didn't want a .270, because I had that area well covered.

I can't believe Walmart had a Ruger #1. Wild

They had two. A .243 and a .270. I was late for the .243 (another chambering I never wanted) but I basically stole the .270 eight months later.

So just like 150+ different cartridges. Check.

These two posts could’ve been posted by me! The 270 is actually a fine little cartridge……but, Jack O’Conner ruined any chance of me ever having one! memtb

If the designer of said cartridge did a pizz poor job, then, yes, a person can ruin a cartridge for me. Otherwise, no.

Can't believe that in 12 pages the 30-30 was only mentioned once and that was in passing. All my life my two BIL shouted from the pulpit all you need is a thutty-thutty and I heard more of it from the woods crowd in MS. I loved the rifles but couldn't bear having one because of their chatter. Now 70 years later I finally own two and a 32 Special. I may try and kill a deer with one this year just to say I did. Otherwise, my favorite is the 300 Savage, 6.5 Swede, and the 25-06. All that really matters is a good bullet going around 2700 fps placed where it oughta be.

All said I never had a 270, 30-06, or 308 either until last year. I may hunt with the 270 and the 308 as it and 06 are left handed. Can't carry them all to the woods though.

A final note on the 25-06. I just about gave up on it became of the Sierra Gamekings I persisted in using because they were the most accurate. They were also the lousiest performing blowing up when you needed toughness. I finally found my way with Noslers and Hornady Interlocks.

Well the 30-30 certainly was never going to be mentioned by me because it's my personal favorite

It is for many....they just won't admit it just like me I had a prejudice because of all the rants about it. I was raised in the open prairies and tended toward more of the 6mm/25-06 so stuck to that mentality until the last decade or so. But I've watched the 30-30 do its thing and yep its a good one to have.


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Your a loser for owning a 270win. I'm so sorry you have such a POS No.1 must be real tough owning it. That's like me winning the Powerball😁😁😁

i was 13yo when i got my first rifle (1972 Winchester m94 top eject) i ever owned. i borrowed a Win 94 in 32 Win Special before i got the 30-30. i can't the number of deer it killed. i sent to JES Reboring and the m94 came back a 35/30-30. i have killed 3 deer with that rifle.

A good number of Creediots have some of the biggest mouths and attitudes out here about how the 6.5 Creedmoor is the most modern, most accurate long range cartridge ever designed, like ever man !

I've offered to do a shootout at 1 mile, from one hilltop to another, both dressed in blaze orange and stand wide open while we take turns with shots at one another,

I even offered to let them take the first shot at me with their superior long range modern marvel 6.5 Creedmoor with the ELDM or ELDX "super high" bc modern super bullets, their choice

My choice was gonna be the super hard recoiling hard to shoot accurately useless magnum 338 EDGE with 300 gr Berger OTM bullets

Not one of those Creediots have accepted the duel

Swamplord, I don't know the people your talking to but you make that bet down here and by the 2nd or 3rd shot you would be dead, there are dozens of guy's that shoot 6.5 of one flavor another at mile regularly. you might want to rethink that deal. Rio7

At the same time, anyone who remotely shares any of these thoughts must have schitttforbrains. You're shooting "challenge" has to be one of the most dumbasss things every posted here, and that's saying something. Not surprised it came from you, however.

Another silly flex by Mr. Testosterone.

by "out here" I meant the local gundummies in my area who've been zombied to believe the Creed is a technologically supreme, long range ballistic missile, you don't even aim with it, just point in the general direction and fire, it's so accurate because the modern case design has the highest bc like no case ever invented before, and the 143 gr ELDX bullet has almost zero drop n drift out to one mile, perfect for elk past 1500

btw, all humor aside.. I'd never duel with PRS shooters or any comp shooters with any cartridge, it very unwise, ha !

I see the other two boomerds have no sense of humor, that old timers E.D. sure can sour a dudes mood, lmao !

That sounds more like something a woman would do, making a decision based on emotions and feelings about what somebody else said.

If you say things like 'that cartridge is gay', I got news for you. It ain't the cartridge.

I've never owned a .270. Not because the Campfire told me it's ghey, but because of the weird diameter - .277...WTH, where'd they get that number? Japan maybe, or so I read somewhere.

I've also never had a 7 mag, and that is partly because of bias. By my observations, they're often fielded by the clueless. Kinda like my uncle's drunk buddy who showed up to deer camp back in the '70's with one of those big ol' Western W49 Bowies on his belt. Big hardware, no idea how to employ it or whether it's appropriate to the task.

Would like to know where you read that, because it's BS.

One reason Winchester decided on .277" is because at the time there were a bunch of Mexican military Mausers in 7x57 available for pretty cheap prices, especially in the Southwest. There were also some Remington Rolling Blocks in 7x57, which couldn't take much pressure.

Winchester guessed that if the bullet of their cartridge was a "real" 7mm some of those rifles would be rechambered to their new round. (They'd also developed a similar cartridge with a .287" diameter bullet for a new bolt rifle they planned to introduce in Europe in 1912, but WWI interfered. Instead they waited until 1925 to introduce the .270 in the Model 54.)

You can read about much of this in the 1999 book W.R.A Co., Headstamped Cartridges and The Variations, Volume I, by Daniel L. Shuey.

I don't recall where it was, I'm going to have to do some digging (based on your response I'm going to say definitively that it wasn't one of your articles ). Your explanation makes a lot more sense than the Nippon connection theory. Thanks for the heads-up on the title, sounds like something pertinent to my interests.