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It's long been suspected that Hamas was a product of the Mossad for the purpose of preventing the establishment of a Palestinian state. LoL. "long been suspected" by who? If Google and YouTube weren't manipulated to conceal inconvenient facts, as they were prior to 2016, it would be an easy matter to do a search for this on those sites, and find plenty of documentation. Sadly, that's no longer the case. I see. Well, actually the prevailing wisdom is Hamas (and every other muslim "militant" group) is a spin-off from the Muslim Brotherhood. The History of Hamas is an account of the Palestinian Islamist fundamentalist socio-political organization with an associated paramilitary force, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. Hamas (حماس) Ḥamās is an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamat al-Islāmiyyah, meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement".
Hamas was established in 1987, and has its origins in Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood movement, which had been active in the Gaza Strip since the 1950s...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HamasIt is NO COINCIDENCE that Obma's first act as president was his infamous "world apology tour". Starting in (wait for it).......... Egypt. Home to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Well, actually the prevailing wisdom is Hamas (and every other muslim "militant" group) is a spin-off from the Muslim Brotherhood. Yes. Correct. The following is taken from: David Livingstone-- Israel Created Hamas to Avoid PeaceOctober 10, 2023 According to Robert Dreyfuss, author of "Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam": "And beginning in 1967 through the late 1980s, Israel helped the Muslim Brotherhood establish itself in the occupied territories. It assisted Ahmed Yassin, the leader of the Brotherhood, in creating Hamas, betting that its Islamist character would weaken the PLO." According to Charles Freeman, former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, "Israel started Hamas. It was a project of Shin Bet [Isreali domestic intelligence agency], which had a feeling that they could use it to hem in the PLO." One aspect of that strategy was the creation of the Village Leagues, over which Yassin and the Brotherhood exercised much influence. Israel trained about 200 members of the Leagues and recruited many paid informers. New York Times Reporter David Shipler cites the Israeli military governor of Gaza as boasting that Israel expressly financed the fundamentalists against the PLO: "Politically speaking, Islamic fundamentalists were sometimes regarded as useful to Israel, because they had conflicts with the secular supporters of the PLO. Violence between the two groups erupted occasionally on West Bank university campuses. Israeli military governor of the Gaza Strip, Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, once told me how he had financed the Islamic movement as a counterweight to the PLO and the Communists. 'The Israeli Government gave me a budget and the military government gives to the mosques,' he said." As Dreyfuss notes, "during the 1980s, the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza and the West Bank did not support resistance to the Israeli occupation. Most of its energy went to fighting the PLO, especially its more left-wing factions, on university campuses." After the Palestinian uprising of 1987, the PLO accused Hamas and Yassin of acting "with the direct support of reactionary Arab regimes... in collusion with the Israeli occupation." Yasser Arafat complained to an Italian newspaper: "Hamas is a creation of Israel, which at the time of Prime Minister Shamir, gave them money and more than 700 institutions, among them schools, universities and mosques." Arafat also maintained that Israeli Prime Minister Rabin admitted to him in the presence of Hosni Mubarak that Israel had supported Hamas. Essentially, as analyst Ray Hannania pointed out, in "Sharon's Terror Child", published in Counterpunch, "undermining the peace process has always been the real target of Hamas and has played into the political ambitions of Likud. Every time Israeli and Palestinian negotiators appeared ready to take a major step forward achieving peace, an act of Hamas terrorism has scuttled the peace process and pushed the two sides apart." In "Hamas and the Transformation of Political Islam in Palestine", for Current History, Sara Roy wrote: "Some analysts maintain that while Hamas leaders are being targeted, Israel is simultaneously pursuing its old strategy of promoting Hamas over the secular nationalist factions as a way of ensuring the ultimate demise of the [Palestinian Authority], and as an effort to extinguish Palestinian nationalism once and for all."
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The airstrikes will continue in Gaza until the hard targets are annihilated. Then 300K ground troops sweep Gaza, door to door. It be over quick, in days, and I do not think most westerners have the fortitude to deal with the brutality we will witness.
Also, I know that Obama and Biden want to keep this going. I can go back 8 or 9 months and find my post on here where I said that they would start WWIII to get Biden back in the oval office. I don't think that it will be over in days. I think it has the possibility to be another Leningrad. Do you realize how big Gaza is? It's tiny. It will be mowed down easily by a heavily armed Isreali force. I suspect the door-to-door execution of Palestinian men will get everyone's ire up.
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My question is what's the end game here for the Democrats? Because every major atrocity that we ever see seems to magically be a political crisis that they can exploit for more power.
Progressives are the most open minded, tolerant, and inclusive people on the planet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and do exactly as you're told.
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Well, actually the prevailing wisdom is Hamas (and every other muslim "militant" group) is a spin-off from the Muslim Brotherhood. Yes. Correct. The following is taken from: David Livingstone-- Israel Created Hamas to Avoid PeaceOctober 10, 2023 According to Robert Dreyfuss, author of "Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam": "And beginning in 1967 through the late 1980s, Israel helped the Muslim Brotherhood establish itself in the occupied territories. It assisted Ahmed Yassin, the leader of the Brotherhood, in creating Hamas, betting that its Islamist character would weaken the PLO." According to Charles Freeman, former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, "Israel started Hamas. It was a project of Shin Bet [Isreali domestic intelligence agency], which had a feeling that they could use it to hem in the PLO." One aspect of that strategy was the creation of the Village Leagues, over which Yassin and the Brotherhood exercised much influence. Israel trained about 200 members of the Leagues and recruited many paid informers. New York Times Reporter David Shipler cites the Israeli military governor of Gaza as boasting that Israel expressly financed the fundamentalists against the PLO: "Politically speaking, Islamic fundamentalists were sometimes regarded as useful to Israel, because they had conflicts with the secular supporters of the PLO. Violence between the two groups erupted occasionally on West Bank university campuses. Israeli military governor of the Gaza Strip, Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, once told me how he had financed the Islamic movement as a counterweight to the PLO and the Communists. 'The Israeli Government gave me a budget and the military government gives to the mosques,' he said." As Dreyfuss notes, "during the 1980s, the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza and the West Bank did not support resistance to the Israeli occupation. Most of its energy went to fighting the PLO, especially its more left-wing factions, on university campuses." After the Palestinian uprising of 1987, the PLO accused Hamas and Yassin of acting "with the direct support of reactionary Arab regimes... in collusion with the Israeli occupation." Yasser Arafat complained to an Italian newspaper: "Hamas is a creation of Israel, which at the time of Prime Minister Shamir, gave them money and more than 700 institutions, among them schools, universities and mosques." Arafat also maintained that Israeli Prime Minister Rabin admitted to him in the presence of Hosni Mubarak that Israel had supported Hamas. Essentially, as analyst Ray Hannania pointed out, in "Sharon's Terror Child", published in Counterpunch, "undermining the peace process has always been the real target of Hamas and has played into the political ambitions of Likud. Every time Israeli and Palestinian negotiators appeared ready to take a major step forward achieving peace, an act of Hamas terrorism has scuttled the peace process and pushed the two sides apart." In "Hamas and the Transformation of Political Islam in Palestine", for Current History, Sara Roy wrote: "Some analysts maintain that while Hamas leaders are being targeted, Israel is simultaneously pursuing its old strategy of promoting Hamas over the secular nationalist factions as a way of ensuring the ultimate demise of the [Palestinian Authority], and as an effort to extinguish Palestinian nationalism once and for all." Supfoo, did I strike you dumb?
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My question is what's the end game here for the Democrats? Because every major atrocity that we ever see seems to magically be a political crisis that they can exploit for more power. Do you mean like they're really quick on the uptake, able to see advantage on a moments' notice, or do you mean like they planned the damned thing in advance specifically to provide advantage? .. just curious.
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
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Publix has 2 for 1 on boneless pork chops this week.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I'm wondering how Hamas got so many missiles through the "blockade"? Always ask cui bono, who benefits. Do Palestinians benefit from the Hamas attacks on Israeli civilians? Of course not. In fact, these attacks will be used to further restrict the liberties of Palestinians, and to make any hope of a Palestinian state far less likely. That being its result, you can take a good guess, after applying the principle of cui bono, at who's behind it. It's long been suspected that Hamas was a product of the Mossad for the purpose of preventing the establishment of a Palestinian state. You just can't let the Jew thing go can you.
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Biden has just lit the spark that will quite possibly start WWIII, during an election year no less.
Ask yourselves “Why”. He, his voters, and his cronies, really are this stupid.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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My question is what's the end game here for the Democrats? Because every major atrocity that we ever see seems to magically be a political crisis that they can exploit for more power. Do you mean like they're really quick on the uptake, able to see advantage on a moments' notice, or do you mean like they planned the damned thing in advance specifically to provide advantage? .. just curious. Spoiler alert. They have no "end game". They're making it up as they go.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Biden has just lit the spark that will quite possibly start WWIII, during an election year no less.
Ask yourselves “Why”. Because election fraud isn’t a guaranteed victory? Exactly correct. They understand how fed up americans are with the current state of the country and have to be feeling the pressure. I really am not sure they can even cheat their way out of this. What better way to keep power than to drive the entire world into war They will cheat their way to victory with ease. They still have the USPS and Dominion. Nothing can stop them. Biden is doing this in an election year because he has no reason to fear the Ballot Box. Whether Americans are in favor of WWIII, or not, matters not to him or his handlers. They will do whatever it take to further the Globalist Agenda and line their $pockets at the same time. It’s a Win-Win for the Uniparty. If nothing can stop them, why all this pretend with elections? Appearance of legitimacy. We peons might got to select county coroner or local sanitation department head but a national election? No [bleep] way. They only need to cheat in five or six major urban population centers (and they will) to control the entire country. when you say urban you mean black. trump didnt win because of fat white hating negroid women who could barely read and write who fixed the election in the 6 black urban areas. meanwhile the OP and others are only concerned with israel not the communists here not the darkies not the 120 million non whites here and millions more on the way. the power of the jew media in action. you dont even get to pick the dog catcher. local jobs go to the relatives of the leaders
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I'm wondering how Hamas got so many missiles through the "blockade"? Always ask cui bono, who benefits. Do Palestinians benefit from the Hamas attacks on Israeli civilians? Of course not. In fact, these attacks will be used to further restrict the liberties of Palestinians, and to make any hope of a Palestinian state far less likely. That being its result, you can take a good guess, after applying the principle of cui bono, at who's behind it. It's long been suspected that Hamas was a product of the Mossad for the purpose of preventing the establishment of a Palestinian state. You just can't let the Jew thing go can you. how can the jew thing be let go when they control the whole West and all the leaders must bow to them? Trump...israel controls the congress and rightfully so Trump...we are only in the mid east to protect israel. so tell me Mr fake MAGA guy how does one forget about the jews?
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when you say urban you mean black. trump didnt win because of fat white hating negroid women who could barely read and write who fixed the election in the 6 black urban areas. meanwhile the OP and others are only concerned with israel not the communists here not the darkies not the 120 million non whites here and millions more on the way. the power of the jew media in action. you dont even get to pick the dog catcher. local jobs go to the relatives of the leaders Misdemeanour, you give the impression you think the Jews deserve to be slaughtered.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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when you say urban you mean black. trump didnt win because of fat white hating negroid women who could barely read and write who fixed the election in the 6 black urban areas. meanwhile the OP and others are only concerned with israel not the communists here not the darkies not the 120 million non whites here and millions more on the way. the power of the jew media in action. you dont even get to pick the dog catcher. local jobs go to the relatives of the leaders Misdemeanour, you give the impression you think the Jews deserve to be slaughtered. not slaughtered removed from power. the Byzantine empire lasted the longest in history by not killing jews but prevented them from holding any power and were restricted to trades. no teachers doctors etc. that is why they lasted so long.
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The Time For Analysis is Over ..
The Chips will Fall on Something or Somebody ..
The Lord Will’n
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not slaughtered removed from power. the Byzantine empire lasted the longest in history by not killing jews but prevented them from holding any power and were restricted to trades. no teachers doctors etc. that is why they lasted so long. That I cannot argue with.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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F’ck we’re just Dancing around some Fools Play ..
There’s going to be Blood n Ass all over the Place ..
Move
Or Prepare to be a Statistic..
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when you say urban you mean black. trump didnt win because of fat white hating negroid women who could barely read and write who fixed the election in the 6 black urban areas. meanwhile the OP and others are only concerned with israel not the communists here not the darkies not the 120 million non whites here and millions more on the way. the power of the jew media in action. you dont even get to pick the dog catcher. local jobs go to the relatives of the leaders Misdemeanour, you give the impression you think the Jews deserve to be slaughtered. not slaughtered removed from power. the Byzantine empire lasted the longest in history by not killing jews but prevented them from holding any power and were restricted to trades. no teachers doctors etc. that is why they lasted so long. I realize you are not an educated person. You just make up things that have no sources or basis in fact. That is NOT the reason the Byzantine empire lasted so long. If you think otherwise, what are your sources?
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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when you say urban you mean black. trump didnt win because of fat white hating negroid women who could barely read and write who fixed the election in the 6 black urban areas. meanwhile the OP and others are only concerned with israel not the communists here not the darkies not the 120 million non whites here and millions more on the way. the power of the jew media in action. you dont even get to pick the dog catcher. local jobs go to the relatives of the leaders Misdemeanour, you give the impression you think the Jews deserve to be slaughtered. not slaughtered removed from power. the Byzantine empire lasted the longest in history by not killing jews but prevented them from holding any power and were restricted to trades. no teachers doctors etc. that is why they lasted so long. I realize you are not an educated person. You just make up things that have no sources or basis in fact. That is NOT the reason the Byzantine empire lasted so long. If you think otherwise, what are your sources? I can see you are a brainwashed zionist, I read it in the jewish encylopedia. put the bottle of booze and oxy contin pills away and do your own research mr canard tropestein. 4 seconds on google putting in jews barred from power in the byzantine empire showed it. put that on your bagel and spread it. Hitler after banning jews created the biggest economic miracle/comeback in the history of the world
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