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https://www.amazon.com/Burris-42mm-Fullfield-Ballistic-Riflescope/dp/B000MM2QU8/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=Burris%2BFF%2BII%2B4.5-14x42&qid=1697579413&s=hunting-fishing&sr=1-6&th=1

3-9x40, 4.5-14x42, or 6.5-20

It is definitely entry level, but they work well enough for what I do that I have bought six this summer. Five of the 4.5-14 and one 3-9 ti fit a set of low rings where the larger scope did not work. The price was $139 a few weeks ago, it has come up.

The image quality is on par with my other schitt scopes: Bushnell 4200, Leupold VX 2, Leupold VX 3i, and Vortex Viper. I only twist the turrets enough to get a zero at 250 to 300 yds depending on trajectory. The Burris has an etched reticle which can be used significantly further.


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I see Amazon also has the Droptines at a price comparable to the FF II. If buying now, that is the way I would go in either 3-9 or 4.5-14.


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A fixed 6X SWFA would be a very good choice. That is a scope that does not cost much, but adjusts properly and has good glass. I put one on my daughter's Tikka T3 .308 and have hunted with it myself a few times. It is a solid optic.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by nuguy
I’m not positive but isn’t the BURRIS DROPTINE just basically the same scope as the BURRIS FULLFIELD II just with a separate power ring and different look.

Doug laid out the differences here a few times before. I'll be damned if I remember. IIRC the Droptine has a few functional improvements.

Yes a separate zoom ring as I recall.

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Over the last few years I moved my older Leupold scopes to my rimfire clinking rifles. I have replaced them on all of my centerfires with premium glass from Leica, Leupold, Schmidt and bender, and Zeiss.

I’m doing a budget build as a gift for a new shooter/hunter and need a scope recommendation. The rifle is an older Remington BDL in 308. In today’s market what is a $200 scope that would be a good starter for this rifle? Again, It is going to a brand new hunter.

Take a look at the Sig Sauer Buckmasters 3-9x40mm - BDC



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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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Gonna look at Burris stuff.


FFII 3-9X40 WITH the [b]ballistic plex reticle is the best of the bunch..[/b] There's no question what I'd go with. Don't be too surprised when they are hitting targets very easily out to 4-500 yards with that set up. You'll be scratching your nutsack, wondering why you've never tried one for yourself.
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Originally Posted by EdM
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I am not Leupold fan but I would suggest a VX Freedom over a Burris. I have one on a rimfire and it is just OK. On a full sized BDL, I'd also try to keep things as light as possible.

So you prefer it over the Burris you owned?
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I am not Leupold fan but I would suggest a VX Freedom over a Burris. I have one on a rimfire and it is just OK. On a full sized BDL, I'd also try to keep things as light as possible.

So you prefer it over the Burris you owned?


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
A fixed 6X SWFA would be a very good choice. That is a scope that does not cost much, but adjusts properly and has good glass. I put one on my daughter's Tikka T3 .308 and have hunted with it myself a few times. It is a solid optic.

That's my first choice. I think it's the most for the least.

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Hard to beat the Burris and you won't be giving your money to China.

The VX-Freedom is reasonably priced too. I may prefer it to the Burris but they perform the same to my eyes.

FWIW the Burris Fullfield IV- are Chinese. The FF2 and Droptine are not. Neither is the Leupold....of course.


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Originally Posted by himmelrr
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I am not Leupold fan but I would suggest a VX Freedom over a Burris. I have one on a rimfire and it is just OK. On a full sized BDL, I'd also try to keep things as light as possible.

So you prefer it over the Burris you owned?
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Originally Posted by himmelrr
I am not Leupold fan but I would suggest a VX Freedom over a Burris. I have one on a rimfire and it is just OK. On a full sized BDL, I'd also try to keep things as light as possible.

So you prefer it over the Burris you owned?


Yes I do. In regards to the Sig options, the Whiskey series is good but hated the “looking through a tunnel” when using it.

Why would be helpful for one trying to make a decision.


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Originally Posted by JPro
My recent samples of one FFII and one Droptine made all my Revolutions look like $500 scopes by comparison. Both were horrible with regards to edge distortion at 9x. Like fishbowls. Maybe I got bad ones......


This distortion issue at 9X is bad in my experience with them also.

I do like the Droptine ocular adjustment better than the FFll where the whole eyepiece moves, but the power adjustment on the Droptine is so tight that it practically needs a strap wrench to turn it.
On the two FFll and two Droptines that I own the adjustments are mushy and tend to hang up for a shot or two after adjusting.

The biggest thing they have going for them IMO is the BDC - I really like their version, I don't understand why more manufacturers aren't making a similar one as a standard reticle.

Then there is the price - even with all that is not quite right about them the price makes them a bargain in the inexpensive scope market.

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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by MosesTucker
Gonna look at Burris stuff.


FFII 3-9X40 WITH the [b]ballistic plex reticle is the best of the bunch..[/b] There's no question what I'd go with. Don't be too surprised when they are hitting targets very easily out to 4-500 yards with that set up. You'll be scratching your nutsack, wondering why you've never tried one for yourself.
This.

I have to expound on the use of the Burris FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle. My new to me rifle (Winchester model 70 Classic Compact), that I've set up for my girlfriend:


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That's one 3 shot group per yardage (200, 300 and 400 yards). Targets are marked, as per usual, with the relevant info...
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This is why I always say this is the easy button. The last 3 shots taken on they yote were from the mag and shot relatively quickly. This one is ready to rock and roll for the girlfriend. She loves it.. Good luck to the OP. .


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The ole Bushnell 4200's were kick azz Jap glass....back when......


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Wait, this is the optics forum - at no time can any scope but the most expensive be recommended (or even tolerated). If the cost of the best scope doesn't leave enough money for a rifle, so be it. wink


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i have the 4.5x14 burris ballistic plex, side focus, actually 4 of them

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Entry level scope = Bushnell Banner, Tasco World Class, Simmons 8 point. They generally run 40 - 75.00 and shytloads of game gets killed every season by hunters using them.

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I have as many Fullfield II scopes as any other brand, and had never noticed the supposedly distracting fuzziness at the edge of the field of view. Just looked at a couple and can see a little, maybe enough to bother me in binoculars.

But one thing I've noticed over the decades is we generally aim with the big middle of the field of view in scopes, not the very edge. And the middle, on down to the bottom hashmark in the Ballistic Plex reticle, is plenty sharp enough to use. As BSA's post demonstrated.


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If you're looking at the Burris, I like the Fullfield E1 with etched reticle. Looking through it against the Fullfield IV, I bought the E1. Don't know the difference except it looked much clearer to me. Plus a great price. I've had no troubles so far with it.

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I’d consider contacting Doug about a Sightron S1 G2. Mine has a touch of the fuzziness at the edge of the lens that has been noted on the Burris, but it far from distracting. As Mule Deer noted, never notice it in use.

Just another option to consider that is slightly above your price point, at least advertised pricing. Again, I think Doug would give you an honest opinion and a fair price.

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